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Old 09-05-2007, 04:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1. What is dogfighting?

Dogfighting is a sadistic "contest" in which two dogs—specifically bred, conditioned, and trained to fight—are placed in a pit (generally a small arena enclosed by plywood walls) to fight each other for the spectators' entertainment and gambling. Fights average nearly an hour in length and often last more than two hours. Dogfights end when one of the dogs will not or cannot continue. In addition to these dogfights, there are reports of an increase in unorganized street fights in urban areas.

2. How does it cause animal suffering?

The injuries inflicted and sustained by dogs participating in dogfights are frequently severe, even fatal. The American pit bull terriers used in the majority of these fights have been specifically bred and trained for fighting and are unrelenting in their attempts to overcome their opponents. With their extremely powerful jaws, they are able to inflict severe bruising, deep puncture wounds and broken bones.

Dogs used in these events often die of blood loss, shock, dehydration, exhaustion, or infection hours or even days after the fight. Other animals are often sacrificed as well. Some owners train their dogs for fights using smaller animals such as cats, rabbits or small dogs. These "bait" animals are often stolen pets or animals obtained through "free to good home" advertisements.

3. Are there other concerns?

Yes. Numerous law enforcement raids have unearthed many disturbing facets of this illegal "sport." Young children are sometimes present at the events, which can promote insensitivity to animal suffering, enthusiasm for violence and a lack of respect for the law. Illegal gambling is the norm at dogfights. Dog owners and spectators wager thousands of dollars on their favorites. Firearms and other weapons have been found at dogfights because of the large amounts of cash present. And dogfighting has been connected to other kinds of violence—even homicide, according to newspaper reports. In addition, illegal drugs are often sold and used at dogfights.

4. What other effects does the presence of dogfighting have on people and animals in a community?

Dogs used for fighting have been bred for many generations to be dangerously aggressive toward other animals. The presence of these dogs in a community increases the risk of attacks not only on other animals but also on people. Children are especially at risk, because their small size may cause a fighting dog to perceive a child as another animal.

5. Why should dogfighting be a felony offense?

There are several compelling reasons. Because dogfighting yields such large profits for participants, the minor penalties associated with misdemeanor convictions are not a sufficient deterrent. Dogfighters merely absorb these fines as part of the cost of doing business. The cruelty inherent in dogfighting should be punished by more than a slap on the hand. Dogfighting is not a spur-of-the-moment act; it is a premeditated and cruel practice.

Those involved in dogfighting go to extensive lengths to avoid detection by law enforcement, so investigations can be difficult, dangerous, and expensive. Law enforcement officials are more inclined to investigate dogfighting if it is a felony. As more states make dogfighting a felony offense, those remaining states with low penalties will become magnets for dogfighters.

6. Do some states already have felony laws?

Yes. Dogfighting is illegal in all 50 states and a felony offense in almost every state.

7. Should being a spectator also be a felony?

Yes. Spectators provide much of the profit associated with dogfighting. The money generated by admission fees and gambling helps keep this "sport" alive. Because dogfights are illegal and therefore not widely publicized, spectators do not merely happen upon a fight; they seek it out. They are willing participants who support a criminal activity through their paid admission and attendance.

8. What can I do to help stop dogfighting?

If you live in one of the states where dogfighting is still only a misdemeanor, please write to your state legislators and urge them to make it a felony. To find out how your state treats dogfighting, visit our page on State Dogfighting Laws.

We encourage you also to write letters to the media to increase public awareness of the dangers of dogfighting and to law enforcement officials or prosecutors and judges to urge them to take the issue seriously. You may want to display our dogfighting poster in your community. For free posters, please include your name and address in an email along with the number of posters you would like to receive, and we'll send our catalog as well.

If you suspect that dogfighting is going on in your own neighborhood, alert your local law enforcement agency and urge agency officials to contact The HSUS for practical tools, advice and assistance.



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1. What is dogfighting?

Dogfighting is a sadistic "contest" in which two dogs—specifically bred, conditioned, and trained to fight—are placed in a pit (generally a small arena enclosed by plywood walls) to fight each other for the spectators' entertainment and gambling. Fights average nearly an hour in length and often last more than two hours. Dogfights end when one of the dogs will not or cannot continue. In addition to these dogfights, there are reports of an increase in unorganized street fights in urban areas.

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CORRECTION: specifically bred, conditioned, and managed to meet in competition as i.e. two professional boxers. Spectators include women, children, entertainment, and food.. When one dogs curs, quits, or by freak accident OR the lack of a carring owner to pick up, a dead dog.


2. How does it cause animal suffering?

Game bred dogs have analgesia (think I spelled that right) which means they don't feel pain and fear like most animals.. they engage.... what causes them pain or fear as well. FEAR and PAIN are BOTH EMOTIONS..
... the capabilities that allow them to bring down feral hogs, bear, moose, tame the wildest of bulls, buffalo and such as recording in American history let alone the history of man kind.. YES those dogs are still needed because FOOD doesnt grow and kill itself for all you HUMANIACs who live in a concrete jungle and eat from packages, cans, and boxes.. THINGS have to die so you can eat, and that food comes from the country. That country is unruly and people need these dogs for the unruly country.. simple as that..


The injuries inflicted and sustained by dogs participating in dogfights are frequently severe, even fatal. The American pit bull terriers used in the majority of these fights have been specifically bred and trained for fighting and are unrelenting in their attempts to overcome their opponents. With their extremely powerful jaws, they are able to inflict severe bruising, deep puncture wounds and broken bones.

Dogs used in these events often die of blood loss, shock, dehydration, exhaustion, or infection hours or even days after the fight. Other animals are often sacrificed as well. Some owners train their dogs for fights using smaller animals such as cats, rabbits or small dogs. These "bait" animals are often stolen pets or animals obtained through "free to good home" advertisements.

WHAT?? Like feeding kittens to dogs to make em blood thirsty to right?? You cannot take the ignorant BYF country or urban and lump in professional and scientific contest to determine game. MAYBE in this country with all the fur mommies that jump on any reason to fear and feel sorry for (themselves more then the animal) the horrific abuse, ... DOG fighting is not a felony in all 50 states. Dogs fight.. sled dogs, bear dogs, bulldogs, etc.. the trick with this breed is managing them and teaching them NOT to fight..

3. Are there other concerns?

How bout having your rights determined by someone who is ignorant of both law and practice; let alone criminal intent.. thats pretty concerning.

Yes. Numerous law enforcement raids have unearthed many disturbing facets of this illegal "sport." Young children are sometimes present at the events, which can promote insensitivity to animal suffering, enthusiasm for violence and a lack of respect for the law. Illegal gambling is the norm at dogfights. Dog owners and spectators wager thousands of dollars on their favorites. Firearms and other weapons have been found at dogfights because of the large amounts of cash present. And dogfighting has been connected to other kinds of violence—even homicide, according to newspaper reports. In addition, illegal drugs are often sold and used at dogfights.

4. What other effects does the presence of dogfighting have on people and animals in a community?

Theres two different kinds, and different kinds of people... to many variables to point fingers and answer questions directly. SIMPLY.. When it was legal pre 76 and throughout the world where its still legal, professional contests had women, children, music, cameras, food, and a vet or vet tech to check the dogs out at the end of the match... sounds like professional boxing to me. The other kind would be ignorant, ego drivin, and dangerous to the people and the dogs invovled, for reasons you mentioned above. FOR SOME REASON are THICKER in AREAS where ILLEGAL

Dogs used for fighting have been bred for many generations to be dangerously aggressive toward other animals. The presence of these dogs in a community increases the risk of attacks not only on other animals but also on people. Children are especially at risk, because their small size may cause a fighting dog to perceive a child as another animal.

WRONG,, as in any breed dogs can have a variable that causes them to be human aggressive or child aggressive... HOWEVER the fighting bulldogs have always been RENOWNED as Nanny Dogs as much as [] dogs, yes high intense dogs arise and common sense should say this dog has no cooth and will trample my child, I LEARNED THIS WITH ALASKAN HUSKIES.. All my bulldogs are great with kids. IN few variable situations people shouldnt have adult bulldogs around their children, as in.. adopting adult bulldogs you have NO clue on their history, as in any ADULT dog from my experience as vet tech for the SPCA. Look at Petey in lil rascals, and our gang... those bandages were from REAL BOUTS and then he was on set with the kids!!! hows that for child danger fear tactics??

5. Why should dogfighting be a felony offense?

There are several compelling reasons. Because dogfighting yields such large profits for participants, the minor penalties associated with misdemeanor convictions are not a sufficient deterrent. Dogfighters merely absorb these fines as part of the cost of doing business. The cruelty inherent in dogfighting should be punished by more than a slap on the hand. Dogfighting is not a spur-of-the-moment act; it is a premeditated and cruel practice.

Those involved in dogfighting go to extensive lengths to avoid detection by law enforcement, so investigations can be difficult, dangerous, and expensive. Law enforcement officials are more inclined to investigate dogfighting if it is a felony. As more states make dogfighting a felony offense, those remaining states with low penalties will become magnets for dogfighters.

6. Do some states already have felony laws?

Yes. Dogfighting is illegal in all 50 states and a felony offense in almost every state.

Last two questions^^^^^ all opinionated garb mixed in with legal fact to en-rile fear and passion.. Yes it should be a felony if gambling is involved, otherwise it could just be a kennel accident because you know all the bulldogs or sled dogs, or bear dogs, NEVER get into kennel accidents fights while owner is asleep or away, NEVER... and they dont count those anyway.. OKAY .. YEAH RIGHT!

7. Should being a spectator also be a felony?

NO.. as in a few states no felony for spectating, many times the spectator is the witness..

Yes. Spectators provide much of the profit associated with dogfighting. The money generated by admission fees and gambling helps keep this "sport" alive. Because dogfights are illegal and therefore not widely publicized, spectators do not merely happen upon a fight; they seek it out. They are willing participants who support a criminal activity through their paid admission and attendance.

8. What can I do to help stop dogfighting?

If you live in one of the states where dogfighting is still only a misdemeanor, please write to your state legislators and urge them to make it a felony. To find out how your state treats dogfighting, visit our page on State Dogfighting Laws.

Please stop distributing fear tactics... if you live in a state of NON FELONY it is because thats how that state depicts statutes and liberty, and that is PERFECTLY FINE this is the UNITED STATES of AMERICA, each state has the right to govern themselves a lil different than other states under the Constitution of the United States of American, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, all cover the reason for .. FOR INSTANCE .. in a non felony state that has ALOT of hog or bear hunters THE DOGS ARE TOP END, and many times get anxious or bored and break free and break another dog, SO frequently that THERE MUST BE A WITNESS to the GAMBLING and AGREED CONTEST TO BET ON THE DOGS. Animal cruelty is a GIVEN, however HOW CAN YOU scream like a HUMANIAC animal cruelty, and dog fighting when the dogs did it themselves, wanted to and quit themselves before the owner got home or awake? States have the right to govern themselves to an extent. Dogfighting has no large criminal racket here in this no felony state, people don't do that crap, but states that HAVE heavy HUMANIAC laws are CONSTANTLY fighting BYF and animal abuse.


We encourage you also to write letters to the media to increase public awareness of the dangers of dogfighting and to law enforcement officials or prosecutors and judges to urge them to take the issue seriously. You may want to display our dogfighting poster in your community. For free posters, please include your name and address in an email along with the number of posters you would like to receive, and we'll send our catalog as well.

If you suspect that dogfighting is going on in your own neighborhood, alert your local law enforcement agency and urge agency officials to contact The HSUS for practical tools, advice and assistance.



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Plain and Simple: THE KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK~ EXCPET: fear, blame, and with an attitude of a HUMANIAC , FORCE their fear, passion, and emotion down everyone else's necks to believe anytime two people meet and their dogs (on leash) growl at each other, its a dog fight.

First of all educate yourself, 2nd educate the public, 3rd don't play that !!! I put dogs down for the SPCA all day everyday for 2yrs; Im here to tell you the HSUS is full of it, their main goal is to eradicate all people from owning pets. All the red tape is the babysteps to get there.

Education, common sense, and the will to speak the truth.. is not something nor the kind of people they want. They want the brainwashable that SPEW the LOUDEST the FACTS they SURELY BELIEVE.... full of logical fallacies.
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the thing that gets me is, until these animals became popular with the public, nothing was ever said, pre 1976.

can someone tell me what the change was???????????

there was no change,

yes freak accidents do happen, most time if one was lost it was because of aftercare, couldnt go to the vet any more.

let me put it this way,
only 1 person out of 100 ever even looks at his dog, because to do that you have to find another 1 out of 100 dogs, so thats 200 dogs to get 2 dogs together, now, to even get to where you could win a contest just think about the percentages.

they start getting crazy.

plus 99.999999999% of the time its a 'rasslin' test, to see who can out 'rassle' or frustrate the other to where he gets tired of it and says 'i've had enuf'

like any contact sport things happen, but that dosent mean they should be outlawed.

but after 1976 you became an outlaw, and then the respectable dogmen started fading away.

used to be a big get together with men, women, and children.

then when larger amounts of money come into play, thats what got the feds involved,

thinkin they were gonna find big money, but it just aint there, most dogmen work for a livin.

i think if the purses never grew, nothing would have been said especially here in nc.

but thugs and drug dealers tried to take over with large dollars, and it worked for awhile,

but i see the trend reversing, now when you pay 3,4,5,6,7,8k for a dog you tend to appreciate and respect where that dog came from and what it took to get that dog here.
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the thing that gets me is, until these animals became popular with the public, nothing was ever said, pre 1976.

can someone tell me what the change was???????????

there was no change,

yes freak accidents do happen, most time if one was lost it was because of aftercare, couldnt go to the vet any more.

let me put it this way,
only 1 person out of 100 ever even looks at his dog, because to do that you have to find another 1 out of 100 dogs, so thats 200 dogs to get 2 dogs together, now, to even get to where you could win a contest just think about the percentages.

they start getting crazy.

plus 99.999999999% of the time its a 'rasslin' test, to see who can out 'rassle' or frustrate the other to where he gets tired of it and says 'i've had enuf'

like any contact sport things happen, but that dosent mean they should be outlawed.

but after 1976 you became an outlaw, and then the respectable dogmen started fading away.

used to be a big get together with men, women, and children.

then when larger amounts of money come into play, thats what got the feds involved,

thinkin they were gonna find big money, but it just aint there, most dogmen work for a livin.

i think if the purses never grew, nothing would have been said especially here in nc.

but thugs and drug dealers tried to take over with large dollars, and it worked for awhile,

but i see the trend reversing, now when you pay 3,4,5,6,7,8k for a dog you tend to appreciate and respect where that dog came from and what it took to get that dog here.
sure says alot don't it, .. .. I've got to sit back and ponder.. it seems if corporations can't control and sponser the events for what ever reasons,.. its deemed illegal suprised rodeos haven't fallen, then again.. no Im not. Big money to be had all throughout the rodeo. I see it somewhere between that and professional boxing.
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I agree with surfer. But remeber when the thugs and drug dealers came in rules went out the window. It went from a sporting event to whos dogs can kill whos dogs.
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I agree with surfer. But remeber when the thugs and drug dealers came in rules went out the window. It went from a sporting event to whos dogs can kill whos dogs.
I've had other experiences through the years that say different.
Not sure I want to share them. It can be A tough pill to swallow.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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even when the thugs took over,
to find an animal that can and would dispatch another is RARE

i've looked at around a 1,000 dogs, and the percentages just aint there.

i'm not saying it cant happen, but what number out of how many?

if i've seen 10 that would be alot, and pp was putting out some of the best in the world,

and all this is a matter of record,

like i said i aint sayin they aint out there because we had some that would dispatch one.

but when that happens 99% of the time the owners pride is what gets in the way.

and dont want to admit he has the lesser dog.

but whats more rare is a tie, thats why you'll have a winner and a loser.

but the real dogmen realize there is no shame in either.

some how the 'contest' went from finding out which one to breed to,

to trying to get rich, then ego's get in the way

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I ment the handlers mentality not actual dogs thst can kill each other.
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