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Old 10-21-2014, 06:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Talking Greetings from Indonesia

Hello guys! I'm Steve from Indonesia.

These are the pitbulls I keep at my home in Jakarta.

This one is a male, named Bumi. Bumi means Earth in Indonesian language. He is 4 months pup. And yeah, he is lazy. This far, I could only walk him for about 15 minutes top. After 15 minutes he would just lay down on the street. But when I threw a ball or when he sees any other dog to play with......


And this one is a female, named Claire. She is 3 months old. She is a bit small. She didn't eat as much as Bumi. By the way, I saw some white spots on her shoulder and on top of her head. What are those?







And these are the dogs my father brought to his rubber plantation.

This is Big Langley, male, 2 years old.


This is Ringo, male, 3 years old.


This is Babby, female, 1,5 years old.


This is Marlboro, male, 2,5 years old.


This is Bella, female, 1,5 years old.


And this one is Brenda, female, 1,5 years old.




So hello people of the forum! If you have any opinions regarding my dogs, please do comment on my post. While of course I'll try to learn as much as I can by reading around the forum.
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Old 10-21-2014, 06:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to Gp! Nice to meet you and your animals. I will be the bad guy and reference in a respectful manner the chains used as collars in all these pics. I know you are in a different country so I will be brief. You should consider getting properly fitted collars for the comfort and safety of the dogs. A chain is much more rough and more easily embedded then a collar. If you dont have somewhere locally to buy id suggest looking online I dont know how Indonesian money transfers vs the us dollar but with Us sellers you can get 10 good collars for as low as 75 U.S. dollars. For U.S. currency that is cheap not sure about Indonesian. Just thought id give the suggestion. Again welcome to GoPitbull.
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Welcome! I also noticed the chain collars right away... I'd definitely look into some good sturdy nylon/seatbelt collars, hopefully something like that is available to you.
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Welcome to the forum and thanks for the introduction and the pictures. Hate to have your food bill. LOL. All pups are so young, have to keep you busy. I agree with the others about using the chains, especially that heavy chain on Big Langley. Appreciate you sharing with us.

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Hi and welcome to the forums. Those are some lovely looking dogs, if you can get some good quailty collars in the future I think it would be to your benefit. I would get the white spots on the pup checked out by a vet but if you can't I'm guessing it's probably allergies or maybe staph? I'm not sure what they're currently eating but if she currently consumes grains possibly try switching to a grain free diet and see how it goes.
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FYI, my father bought 8 pitbulls for around USD 670 from a kennel. Right now, he spent USD 62.5 a month for dog food. We gave them Caliber dog food. This is one of Indonesian Pits enthusiast favourite dogfood. The other two dogs he didn't bring with him are still with their breeder (Not Bumi and Claire. Both are mine). Those chain collars were suggested and used by their breeder. When my father bought them he just followed what the former owner said. Maybe I could tell you what the former owner used to do to his dogs, you could correct them right away.

Especially when there is no known good kennels or good pitbull communities here in Indonesia, I don't even know where to ask question.

The former owner said:
- Use the chain collars (Langley's chain is bigger because he broke the smaller one)
- Feed them once a day with around two cups of dog food
- Fill the water bowl all the time
- If you don't have kennel or crate, just chain them to something strong enough to hold them. When we were looking to adopt them, Langley's was just chained onto a steel pole as long as I can remember. While the other was put inside their own crate.
- Exercise (running and unused motorcycle tire for biting exercise)

I'll ask my dad what else the former owner told him. He sold those dogs because he wanted to close the kennel.

The next time Claire got her vaccine, I'll ask the vet. Or maybe I'll try to feed her another dog food. Anyway, does she looks underweight? My sister and my mother usually just put their food into a bowl inside their crate and then leave. But then once, I caught Bumi eating the food from Claire's crate (Yup! He just figured out how to open his crate and Claire's crate. Just a normal puppy mischief isn't it?). So when I'm around the house, I changed the feeding method.

Thank you for the suggestion! I'll look for a good nylon collar rightaway.
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FYI, my father bought 8 pitbulls for around USD 670 from a kennel. Right now, he spent USD 62.5 a month for dog food. We gave them Caliber dog food. This is one of Indonesian Pits enthusiast favourite dogfood. The other two dogs he didn't bring with him are still with their breeder (Not Bumi and Claire. Both are mine). Those chain collars were suggested and used by their breeder. When my father bought them he just followed what the former owner said. Maybe I could tell you what the former owner used to do to his dogs, you could correct them right away.

Especially when there is no known good kennels or good pitbull communities here in Indonesia, I don't even know where to ask question.

The former owner said:
- Use the chain collars (Langley's chain is bigger because he broke the smaller one)
- Feed them once a day with around two cups of dog food
- Fill the water bowl all the time
- If you don't have kennel or crate, just chain them to something strong enough to hold them. When we were looking to adopt them, Langley's was just chained onto a steel pole as long as I can remember. While the other was put inside their own crate.
- Exercise (running and unused motorcycle tire for biting exercise)

I'll ask my dad what else the former owner told him. He sold those dogs because he wanted to close the kennel.

The next time Claire got her vaccine, I'll ask the vet. Or maybe I'll try to feed her another dog food. Anyway, does she looks underweight? My sister and my mother usually just put their food into a bowl inside their crate and then leave. But then once, I caught Bumi eating the food from Claire's crate (Yup! He just figured out how to open his crate and Claire's crate. Just a normal puppy mischief isn't it?). So when I'm around the house, I changed the feeding method.

Thank you for the suggestion! I'll look for a good nylon collar rightaway.


Claires weight is fine you don't want her so fat it obstructs proper growth but you don't want to see any hip bones or backbone either a little tiny hint of rib is acceptable if she has a well sprung rib but most pups have plenty of fatty tissue over it.

As far as the chains a chain setup is perfectly acceptable as long as they have proper water and shelter accessible at all times and are fed daily. The chains used as collars are what we all are referring to here is a link to a couple good US collar dealers I am sure would be happy to ship to you.

Stillwater Kennel Supply -- The Best Pit Bull Collars
Custom K9 Gear Facebook or Custom K9 Gear



Here is a post I just recently gave all info on proper chain setup(i am several posts down and replied to the post so just scroll down after the page loads.)

https://www.gopitbull.com/general-dis...reat-dane.html


As far as food don't take me the wrong way but Calibur is one of the most crappy foods you can feed. I can however direct you towards some other options. I will leave you this link to go and study up on some dog food brands however. Just because a food is more expensive per bag doesn't always mean its more expensive in the long run.

Dog Food Reviews and Ratings | Dog Food Advisor

The dog food advisor goes over what is good and what is bad in the dog foods and shows why cheaper food is not really a great option regardless. I however understand the toll multiple dog home takes on a feed and vet bill.

The feeding on a food really should be started by the feeding guideline and added to or taken from if there is weight gain or weight loss assuming the dog is at the appropriate weight starting. Adults should be fed once a day some choose to split the feeding in two but, once is fine but, young pups like Claire should be fed twice if not three times a day same amount as you feed now just broken into two or three feeding intervals so she doesn't bloat. Most puppies will eat the amount in a day the adult versions of themselves will eat when full grown. Here are a few more inexpensive suggestions that aren't really the best food but a whole heck of alot better then what you are feeding.

Evolve Maintenance Formula with Chicken Dry Dog Food, 30-lb bag
Triumph Chicken & Rice Recipe Dry Dog Food, 30-lb bag
Hi-Tek Naturals Chicken Meal & Rice Fitness Formula Adult Dry Dog Food, 30-lb bag
Pioneer Naturals Chicken Dry Dog Food, 30-lb
Canidae Life Stages Chicken Meal & Rice Formula Dry Dog Food, 30-lb bag

Ones I actually feed when I'm in a bind are
Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete Formula Dry Dog Food, 40-lb bag
or
Merrick Whole Earth Farms Adult Recipe Dry Dog Food, 30-lb bag
Merrick Whole Earth Farms Puppy Recipe Dry Dog Food, 30-lb bag


Hope this helps a bit.
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Welcome! Some great advice given and thank you for being open to receive the advice. You sure do have yours handful! Cute pups!! I think each dog would be different in regards to feeding. I broke up my puppies kibbles and fed three times a day. When he was about 6-7 months I went to two times. I know tons who feed adults one time a day so it really is whatever works for you. Your dogs weight should dictate how much they need to be fed. Some more than others some less. Depends on how they grow. This a good indicator for how they should look as they mature. Puppies are cute with their big ol bellies lol
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Wow. Thanks a lot for the advice! And for the picture also. Looking forward to work together with my pack ))
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