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Old 09-26-2008, 09:24 AM   #31 (permalink)
 

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You will find the mostfactual info about any bloodline from people who are neither bias because of ownership or driven by spite,jmo.
Anyone can put there own personal spin on the truth and weave a fable to support his or her agenda.
Also it isn't smart nor in good taste to brag about your friendship and conversations with known and recently active[1990's at least] dog fighter
Stephenie Turpin but if that's what you consider a good post then hey,that's you and shows on your character.
Get Over yourself already cane ... I said it was nice to hear good factual info about the bloodline itself since I don't know much about it and MSK deals primarily with TNT ... if that get's your panties in a bunch I don't know what to tell you. The fact that I am learning about the bloodline from different people and thanking the orginal OP for their information regarding the bloodline itself has nothing to do with my character

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Old 09-26-2008, 12:12 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:21 PM   #33 (permalink)
 

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:00 PM   #34 (permalink)
 
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Wow...whats up yal can I live?
Can I get one of those fancy signature things?

Actually I want someone to make a logo for my Kennel with the Dogos and the Neo side by side.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:31 PM   #35 (permalink)
 

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Wow...whats up yal can I live?
Can I get one of those fancy signature things?

Actually I want someone to make a logo for my Kennel with the Dogos and the Neo side by side.

Ask MSK she is really good with photoshop I am still an ameture with photoshop I own it but am still learning how to use the damn thing LOL I was just messing around today thought it would be appropriate due to the recent circumstances lmao
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:41 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I usually try to stay out of this stuff, I think it is best to just let people yammer on about things and eventually they will hang themselves.

But

I have been asked to clarify a few things...

Number one, Trouble IS a champion, Stephanie has his Champion certificate, he won his champion match against a Chinaman dog from down south, it was never published because he was blue and she is a girl.

Number two, she NEVER said that his first two were pushovers, his first roll turned out to be a pushover but was not touted as such previously and outweighed Trouble by 15lbs.

Number three, she did NOT intend to breed BLUE game dogs, she intended to breed game dogs and Trouble HAPPENED to be blue. It was an uphill battle because of it.

Number four, she considers her foundation dogs to be Minters Miss Sheba, Blue Trouble, Blue Rowdy and Buckshot. Sadie is not considered a foundation dog because she was the result of an accidental breeding between brother and sister. She did produce Rowdy and Cinnamon and Grim came from Rowdy.

Cane, talking to doggers or dogmen/women is a much better way to learn about a great breed than googling on the internet.

Amanda, Stephanie would like for you to call her. She wants to have an actual conversation with you and set a couple of things straight.

Since I know that you will actually NEED her number you can pm me.

Mods, sorry but I am really tired of people online talking smack about people who are not there to defend themselves and pretending to be/know people that they don't/aren't. There are some great people on this forum and some truly knowledgable and good advocates for the breed, but this misquoting and misleading needs to stop here.

Be careful what you say on the internet, you never know who you are really talking to.

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Old 09-27-2008, 12:01 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I have been waiting on you to chime in
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Old 09-27-2008, 06:03 PM   #38 (permalink)
 

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INumber one, Trouble IS a champion, Stephanie has his Champion certificate, he won his champion match against a Chinaman dog from down south, it was never published because he was blue and she is a girl.
Not to down play the dog[blu trouble] but this must be said,just because a dog is from a particular blood line[in this case chineman]doesn't mean a thing!
There's duds in every line,just because chineman was a notorious game dog doesn't mean all dogs related to him are equal or even close to him,the particular "dog" is important but the bloodline is just a name.....



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Number three, she did NOT intend to breed BLUE game dogs, she intended to breed game dogs and Trouble HAPPENED to be blue. It was an uphill battle because of it..
If she intended to breed game dogs as you say why'd she start with dogs breed from mostly staff breeding and a 100% ruffian staff?



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Cane, talking to doggers or dogmen/women is a much better way to learn about a great breed than googling on the internet...
So be it,does that mean its smart or tact full to brag about associating with know dog fighters over the Internet,and do you think everyone who frequents apbt sites are just enthusiast's or dog folk,if your smart you'd do your talk in private not on a public form especially when the topic involves a felony.

People on this particular site breed this line a lot,possibly over breed it and if your gonna talk about your breeding's,brag about your line you better be able to take the responses.don't expect a pat on the back every time one of your bitches squeezes out another bundle of pups and only a fool would believe every dog from the line is good just because its from a particular line.
,[email protected] you can have success with a pound puppy,individual dogs are what matters not pedigrees and blood lines..
Every angry or defensive post just makes one look insecure and personally i don't care who is what on this site,if somebodies acting like someone they aren't then it will show in there posts and eventually they will have there card pulled...
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If I want to be excited about the first breeding that we have done in three years and talk about it in public with other people that I know and pull with I don't think that is bragging. I also don't breed TNT, I have some dogs with TNT in them and I love them and enjoy working and showing them. My friendship with Stephanie has more to do with another dog lover than her line. What she does is her business not mine. I have NEVER been involved in any felonies but I have met felons, that doesn't make me one.

The reason that she started with a show line is actually a really funny story and hopefully she will come here and tell it someday, but it is not my story to tell or retell.

I realize, Cane, that you are familiar with this group online only but bear in mind that I came here and post here because of people that I know in person, it is just more interesting than email.

I think that everyone is entitled to their opinion about anything, I only have a problem when people start making statements that aren't true.

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Old 09-28-2008, 10:21 AM   #40 (permalink)
 

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Not to down play the dog[blu trouble] but this must be said,just because a dog is from a particular blood line[in this case chineman]doesn't mean a thing!
There's duds in every line,just because chineman was a notorious game dog doesn't mean all dogs related to him are equal or even close to him,the particular "dog" is important but the bloodline is just a name....

People on this particular site breed this line a lot,possibly over breed it and if your gonna talk about your breeding's,brag about your line you better be able to take the responses.don't expect a pat on the back every time one of your bitches squeezes out another bundle of pups and only a fool would believe every dog from the line is good just because its from a particular line.
,[email protected] you can have success with a pound puppy,individual dogs are what matters not pedigrees and blood lines..
Every angry or defensive post just makes one look insecure and personally i don't care who is what on this site,if somebodies acting like someone they aren't then it will show in there posts and eventually they will have there card pulled...


So I guess what you're saying is bloodline means absolutely nothing and that anybody who buys a pup or dog from a well known bloodline, might as well just buy a mutt because they're chances of success are just as great? We are all just fools for seeking out tight bred dogs off of reputable bloodlines?
Nobody here is fighting dogs..we aren't exactly looking for dogs that are dead game.

I understand that not all pups in a litter will have what it takes to champ out or ace but just blindly purchasing a random dog off a BYB or getting a rescue to work with isn't gonna increase your chances better than buying a pup from proven gamelines.
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:55 PM   #41 (permalink)
 

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So I guess what you're saying is bloodline means absolutely nothing and that anybody who buys a pup or dog from a well known bloodline, might as well just buy a mutt because they're chances of success are just as great? We are all just fools for seeking out tight bred dogs off of reputable bloodlines?
Nobody here is fighting dogs..we aren't exactly looking for dogs that are dead game.

I understand that not all pups in a litter will have what it takes to champ out or ace but just blindly purchasing a random dog off a BYB or getting a rescue to work with isn't gonna increase your chances better than buying a pup from proven gamelines.
yes thats exactly what i mean........................................
What these threds realy show are people are almost as deffensive about these dogs as people are with razors edge and gotti,let me guess this thred goes on for 5 more pages,keep my name out of it and i wont respond back about something i care nothing about.
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:48 PM   #42 (permalink)
 

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I say people can buy whatever the hell they want .. as long as it makes them happy so be it . If you want a cat/pit/rotti mix knock yourself out I am not one to judge what someone likes nor am I dog racist ... just don't go breeding your dog & selling those pups off as 100% pure chinaman apbt's lmfao. Anyway To steph & amanda thanks for all of your info on this thread about T-N-T lines.

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Old 09-28-2008, 03:34 PM   #43 (permalink)
 

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yes thats exactly what i mean........................................
What these threds realy show are people are almost as deffensive about these dogs as people are with razors edge and gotti,let me guess this thred goes on for 5 more pages,keep my name out of it and i wont respond back about something i care nothing about.


Of course people will get defensive when you talk smack about what kind of blood they are running in their yards. It's not easy preserving certain characteristics from a bloodline with all this mixing and matching going on today.

I personally feel that Pulldawgs has a great breeding going on or I wouldn't have reserved one for myself. I may just be guilty of being biased as many people are with their dogs. I feel Pulldawgs is doing right by the breed with getting their dogs into weight pulling and carefully selecting their breedings. Besides, if you had read that thread on "best breeding of the year" you would have seen where Stephanie posted that they were just trying to show their excitement for their long awaited breeding. That's not even the point, I see a better success rate with dogs stemming from tight consistent Boudreaux dogs on 75% of parentage than a random scatterbred byb mutt (IMO).

If you think bloodlines are irrelevant then why are you always in the bloodline section of the forum? I think most of us feel that genetics play a big role in a dog's outcome or we wouldn't look for certain bloodlines. You are a fool if believe that certain ancestry in any breed of dog has no effect on a dog's genetic make-up. Im not speaking about loose bred dogs here, like unknown bully lineage, I mean great preserved bulldogs.

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here we go again...another legend in their own mind has joined this old ass discussion. I love these intros....they just get better and better.
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Exactly who are you referring to? I know Eddie has some bang up dogs or else I wouldn't be picking up a pup this Sunday off of his "Cocky". I just thought the way you introduced yourself was piss poor but that's just me.

If you are referring to Cane, he will tell anyone that has a blue dog or one off a bloodline that has blues in there somewhere down the line, that their dog is crap. His card has been pulled already, his actual experience with bulldogs is far outweighed by his google research. I have no doubts that he is very knowledgeable in bulldog history but this doesn't compare to owning and working with these dogs everyday for many years... but what do we know?

Maybe I just misread you, if so I apologize. Maybe in the future you could tell a little about yourself before jumping in on a old thread and telling people they don't have a clue. With that being said, welcome to the board.
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