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Old 07-28-2009, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Charley is 5 months old today. I trained him right away to pee on command when I got him. I tell him "do it" and he does, I still praise him and all is well in the pee department. When he was little he'd poop out side in the same spot, and then he wouldn't go there he started going EVERYWHERE in the yard I really don't care for yard bombs because I have 3 kids and tracks are just a pain. My son Noah will be 3 years old at the end of August, he and Charley play well together but once in a while when Noah is having a tantrum he hits Charley and Charley yelps and walks away. Now Charley likes to poop in Noah's room!!!!!!! AAAAAAHHRRRRRRRGGGGGHHH. I can't say I blame him, but I am really tired of scrubbing his carpet ALL THE TIME! I have tried EVERYTHING. I used pet odor remover to take the smell away and it's supposed to deter them from doing it again, I've tried moving Charley's bed in the there, I even put his food and water bowl in there!! and he right beside it!!! I took him out this morning for like half an hour, he WAITED to come in the house to sh*t on his floor He does this often. But Noah hasn't done anything to him in a LONG time why still the animosity? I can't figure it out I show him his poop, I take it out side and show it to him again and he just lays there with his head down shaking. I'm not abusive AT ALL to him!! I showed him his mess one time and I took him outside by his collar ( not dragging him but leading him) and he peed the whole way out shaking all the way. He is a REALLY good dog and a freaking Einstein too!! Why can't he figure this out and what I'm doing wrong? PLEASE some one help me.
P.S. He goes next month to get fixed and he still pees like a girl. Does this have anything to do with it
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am no expert but I would say that you need to fix the relationship or the view that your dog has twards tha kid, IMO I think it can turn dangerous in the future. I nothing has worked then teach the dog not to go in the room at all. I have a Shitzu that absolutly hates my 5 year old kid because he used to hit him. I opted to keep my kid away from the dog at all times, cuz there was nothing I could do, and I don't want to hit the dog, it is my soon you know. That is what I did.
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hhmm innnnteresting... IDK... Get your kids involved with the training. If they see it happen they have to stop him and take him outside then have them help with the clean up. It seems like he doesn't take your son very seriously and may hold some resentment towards him. Once you have the kids stepping up to the plate and having their hands in with the training your dog should have a whole new respect for them. Don't let the kids get bumbarded by the dog while they're eating... rather put his crate in the highest traffic area where the dog can see the pecking order of the house and realise that he's at the bottom. Also, don't let the dog on the furniture and get the kids active with getting them down also.
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hhmm innnnteresting... IDK... Get your kids involved with the training. If they see it happen they have to stop him and take him outside then have them help with the clean up. It seems like he doesn't take your son very seriously and may hold some resentment towards him. Once you have the kids stepping up to the plate and having their hands in with the training your dog should have a whole new respect for them. Don't let the kids get bumbarded by the dog while they're eating... rather put his crate in the highest traffic area where the dog can see the pecking order of the house and realise that he's at the bottom. Also, don't let the dog on the furniture and get the kids active with getting them down also.

Well said. Dogs are smart, strong animals, both physically and emotionally. Your dog obviously has a resentment against your little boy, but you have to guide him to build that bond, and better yet, establish that leader role that will play an important part as both your dog and your child grow up. What your dog is doing around your kids is dominant and you should start correcting the behavior and showing your children the proper way to correct and train a dog, with the last resort being physical. Just tell your son that he wouldn't like to get hit when he made a mistake.

As far as your dog catching on, if he's potty trained, he definitely does it to spite your son, and it's not that he doesn't comprehend. Your son definitely needs to approach him with a different demeanor so that your dog doesnt associate him or his room with anger or fear. Ive seen dogs cowar in fear defecate on site, because they are awaiting a "spanking".

With everything, it takes time and consistency. I know your son is young yet, but as a bully breed owner, you take it in your own hands to be responsible with owning this pup and everything that comes with it... Until your kids understand what it is to be an alpha, you need to help them establish it. Work with your family, and your puppy, and be consistent.

One thing I would try is to clean up the mess when the puppy can't see you bent down, scrubbing away. Don't let one bit of anger or frustration vent thru your pores because the puppy will sense it. Don't be kind, either because you don't want to encourage the behavior. Start taking your pup to the potty more frequently, and praise him like he cured cancer when he goes number 2. the more and more you and your kids help your puppy understand that going in the yard gets him rewarded, and that going in the house goes "unnoticed" the faster the habit will break.

If you are wanting to concentrate the area in which your puppy uses as his restroom, I might suggest a "Pee Post". It costs about 10 bucks and can be found at petsmart or anywhere online. It comes in a plastic package, contains pheremones that attracts your puppy and lasts about 3 months. It's sort of like a stake, you just push in into your yard and your dog will stay within a few feet of it any time, as long as it's still putting off pheremones.

Sorry this was longwinded, hope it helps.
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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hhmm innnnteresting... IDK... Get your kids involved with the training. If they see it happen they have to stop him and take him outside then have them help with the clean up. It seems like he doesn't take your son very seriously and may hold some resentment towards him. Once you have the kids stepping up to the plate and having their hands in with the training your dog should have a whole new respect for them. Don't let the kids get bumbarded by the dog while they're eating... rather put his crate in the highest traffic area where the dog can see the pecking order of the house and realise that he's at the bottom. Also, don't let the dog on the furniture and get the kids active with getting them down also.
He's really good with not bothering us when were eating, Noah walks around like a human dog treat and Charley know to "leave it." He eats after we do, and he usually lays on his bed in the kitchen until we are done. But I was told a dog wouldn't eat where he sheets or sheet where he eats, I guess Charley is the exception That's why I put his food bowl in Noah's room. Funny lately Charley has been getting on the furniture ( a BIG NO NO) maybe a little defiance going on there hmmm? Thanks for the tip, I've notice Charley pulling my oldest daughter around while he's on the leash lately.....

Elise our little girl ( 10 months) just crawls all over him and he lets her, he doesn't seem to have a problem yet. Also if my husband or Naomi my oldest daughter (almost 10) take him out side to potty ( usually on a leash) he poops for them but not for me. I usually take him out off his leash because he listens very well with me. Maybe I will use the leash with him till he gets it, off leash is something he will have to earn back I guess.

Well I have a human K-9 bridge to repair and a couple of pack leaders to train.Wish me luck I was told that pitty's are a one person dog meaning that they would only respect one pack leader I don't want to believe that Charley wont respect my family as much as me...... Is this true??
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He's really good with not bothering us when were eating, Noah walks around like a human dog treat and Charley know to "leave it." He eats after we do, and he usually lays on his bed in the kitchen until we are done. But I was told a dog wouldn't eat where he sheets or sheet where he eats, I guess Charley is the exception That's why I put his food bowl in Noah's room. Funny lately Charley has been getting on the furniture ( a BIG NO NO) maybe a little defiance going on there hmmm? Thanks for the tip, I've notice Charley pulling my oldest daughter around while he's on the leash lately.....

Elise our little girl ( 10 months) just crawls all over him and he lets her, he doesn't seem to have a problem yet. Also if my husband or Naomi my oldest daughter (almost 10) take him out side to potty ( usually on a leash) he poops for them but not for me. I usually take him out off his leash because he listens very well with me. Maybe I will use the leash with him till he gets it, off leash is something he will have to earn back I guess.

Well I have a human K-9 bridge to repair and a couple of pack leaders to train.Wish me luck I was told that pitty's are a one person dog meaning that they would only respect one pack leader I don't want to believe that Charley wont respect my family as much as me...... Is this true??
hahaha he's not going to the bathroom IN his crate is he? He's catching you on a technicallity. (sp?) Oh yeah, have you noticed that you're spending more time recently with either of the children?
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First let me start by telling you a little about dog behavior.
Dogs do not harbor resentment or plot revenge. We as people like to label behaviors and relate them to what ever makes sense. Dogs are more instinct based than that. Dog's thought process is not like ours and we as humans try to label their behave with humans emotions.
With that said it has nothing to do with your son hitting the dog. IMO your dog should not be around your child as much as accidents happen and if your child acts out and you are not there bad things can happen.

5 months old is still very much a puppy. The fact that your dog goes out side then comes inside to poop says it all right there. Your puppy is not potty trained like you think.
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1. When you let your puppy outside to go potty, how long is he outside for before you bring him in?
2. Do you have other dogs in the house?
3. Is your puppy crate trained?
4. do you ever catch your puppy in the act or do you always find it later on?

This problem is much more simple than you think
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My advice is never let the puppy in the child's bedroom unattended, you will not catch him in the act if he is allowed there alone. Another issue is, do you keep dirty diapers in the room, or did you(if he's potty trained)? The dog might smell the scent of feces even if the child is potty trained, the dog might be able to still smell it in the room. Also I know this might hit a nerve, but small children sometimes act badly, your son may have left a poop himself out of spite at some time, and now the dog thinks that's the place to go. I have seen a grown man blame his poop on a dog, so I see no reason why a child might not think of it as well. To get the poop and pee smell out of the room is important. Do not keep dirty diapers in the trash pail in there, spray every inch of the carpet, even move furniture and spray under with a white vinegar, water mix, air out the room for a day, and then sprinkle the carpet powder and vaccuum it up to remove the vinegar smell. Let the dog in the room when you are done, and watch him, but make him think he's alone, peek around the corner or something, and if he squats immediately correct him and take him out, and do not come in until he goes.
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