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Old 04-26-2010, 05:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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7 months old and still not potty trained!!!!

My dog keystone is really getting irratating!! He still pees and poops in the kennel!! seems like i will never get him potty trained! Every morning i wake up or come back home SURPRISE!! EVERYTIME! I've tried and tried! What else can I do to get him to stop! Need help fast cause my wife is 37 weeks pregnant and still cant get him potty trained!!
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Hmmmm, man there's nothing worse than that. My boy was the same way, however we didn't get him till he was seven months.....This worked like a charm for us...Rub his nose in it every time, tell him no in a stern voice, and take him directly outside for like three minutes or however long...and directly back to the kennel or if your concerned with making the kennel uncomfortable for him, then use a specific tie up that lets him know hes in trouble. If you have already done this, then maybe change his feeding schedule? Good luck hope you get the problem solved. Congratulations on the baby!!!!
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But the werid thing is that he licks up our other dogs pee and then goes back and licks up his pee....if we rub his nose in it he just starts licking it up!!! thats why it has been so hard to potty train him!
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Whaaaaaaattt? lol. Wow..is your other dog a male as well?
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No its a girl
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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taking him out to poop about 15 minutes after feeding?

taking him out to pee/poop each time you let him out of the crate ( if there is no pee/poo?)

rewarding him for pooping anywhere BUT the crate?

tell us what you have tried so far.
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taking him out to poop about 15 minutes after feeding?

taking him out to pee/poop each time you let him out of the crate ( if there is no pee/poo?)

rewarding him for pooping anywhere BUT the crate?

tell us what you have tried so far.
Also, don't feed/water before bed/crating. Take the dog out to pee/poop, just before bed.
Does the dog have a medical issue? Coop had a spell of "mistakes", that turned out to be from a Urinary Tract Infection.
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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I agree that he should be checked for potential illness, and her food and water should be removed a few hours before bed. Once you know she has no heath problem, you can take action.

If she's going in the crate, then you have what is referred to as a dirty dog. My pug is a dirty dog, it was an uphill battle. Luckily I'm home all the time, and we have dog doors for the rare occassions we go out. Rubbing a dog's nose in the mess will not help, and can even encourage the behavior of a dirty dog because they have no natural aversion to their feces, so you are giving the dog attention, and even kind of playing with her. With a situation like yours the best approach is positive reinforcement. Start by taking your dog outside every hour, even at night, and praise her when she goes, you can even have a special treat ready for doing her business. When you go outside, give her a command to do her thing, and when she does, praise and reward her. As she gets the hang of it, you can increase the time in between potty trips slowly. You will have to get up at night and continue taking her out on this schedule.

Here's another tip I found useful, have 2 crates. When we would put our pug in her crate, she immediately pooped as soon as we left the room so that we would come back and let her out while we cleaned it up. So I moved her crate to the bedroom, and as soon as I smelled poo, I put her in the clean crate, that way she got no reward for going in the crate. I gave no indication that I knew what she did, I did not talk to her, just popped her out and put her in the clean one. Then I cleaned the original so it was ready if she tried again. She was so bad about going in the crate that I would wake up to a pug wearing a phantom of the opera mask made of poo lol, she just laid right in it.

This is a difficult battle, and you may have to make some sacrifices on your part as well. We don't crate any of our adult dogs at night, so we started off by letting the pug sleep in bed with us once she was about a year old, and she never pottied in the bed. She now never goes potty in the house or crate if we are home. I have a friend who had a dirty dog, and her approach was to make the crate a kind of dog litterbox. It is far easier to clean up newspapers in the crate then to wash a dog and floors and carpet.

One thing to keep in mind, people often take a negative approach to this and put the dog outside in a run, with the intention of letting the dog back in when he's housetrained. Often this behavior originally stems from some sort of anxiety or attention seeking. Dirty dogs often start out soiling themselves because they get anxious when their humans leave and have unintentional accidents because of this anxiety, which they then have to lie in because the people are gone at work. This builds a tolerance, and the problem gets worse and worse. Other times, people dont let the pup out frequently enough, or the breeder does not keep the area the pups are in clean enough (also happens with shelter dogs, and pet shop pups). The pup gets desensitized to the feces, then realizes at some point that soiling themself guarantees some kind of attention. What your goal should be is to break the habbit, and encourage good behavior by spending more time with the pup. I know it sucks to get up every hour at night, but it does improve, once the pup realizes that you waking up to a soiled crate means getting put directly in a new crate, and waking up to a clean crate means you take her out and reward her when she goes outside, she will start holding it for the treat and attention.
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Old 04-26-2010, 04:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Excellent post, FC! I would rep you on this, but I have to give rep to someone else first! But I'll be sure to come back around and rep you! I agree 100% with your post!
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FloorCandy posted excellent advice. Also how big is your crate? Perhaps it's just a little to large.

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Rubbing there nose in it won't help you one bit.
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Old 04-26-2010, 08:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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FC that is a fantastic post very detailed and awesome step by step advice.
OP as Aimee asked how big is that crate cause it should only be big enough to sleep, sit up and move around. Then follow FC's post especially cause its first hand experience.

I'm not with that rubbing their face in their own poop or pee either.
Positive re-enforcement goes a long way.
My boys have never used the potty in their crates unless I'm late to walk them and that has to be over an hour late. Duece was a late bloomer at potty training, but all my dogs are taught a word to associate with positive bathroom use out doors just like FC said, and a treat or good boy rubs followed.
Best of luck with your issue.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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yes!!! totally agree with aimee and FC. i am puppy sitting a 3 month old blue nose baby. she has been here just over a week and wasn't potty trained or crate trained... the first time i put her in a crate to see how she would do she straight squatted in 2 seconds. i flipped the doggy bed and put her back in and she did the same thing a few seconds later. now she hasn't had an accident it like 5 days, knows what "go outside" and "go potty" mean and has started a small whine when she needs to go gosh so much easier than george was!!! hahaha. be super vigilant, watch the water, and give TONS of praise when they do it the right way. i heard somewhere praise should be 10x the amount of discipline. hope that makes sense. positive reinforcement makes you feel so much better about your pup and keeps fear outta the pic. p.s.- rubbin nose in poo is a bad idea. take it from an owner of an ex-poop eater icky icky.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
 

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Keystone had a problem with mange mite when we got him....we got him treated for hat and then he got really sick and almost died! I think this might have to deal with him not being potty trained yet but i just wanted to ask and see what addvise i could get! I will say that the crate is to big im working on getting a smaller one! just didnt want him to be to squished in a smaller one! we have also tried rubbing his nose in the pee and poop, wont work!!! i let him out right after he eats or drinks...then about 1 hour later and so on! I always let him out before we go to bed. thats why i dont understand why he isnt potty trained yet! But thanks for all the addvise!
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My dog keystone is really getting irratating!! He still pees and poops in the kennel!! seems like i will never get him potty trained! Every morning i wake up or come back home SURPRISE!! EVERYTIME! I've tried and tried! What else can I do to get him to stop! Need help fast cause my wife is 37 weeks pregnant and still cant get him potty trained!!
My Isis took 8 months before she was totally potty trained. Otherwise, she was trained not to bite, walk off leash, stay, not to jump when we told her, it was just the peeing in the house, and on the way out of the building, she would make it to the front door of my building, and pee just before exiting, which was a pain 'cause i live on the 4th floor, and would have to go back upstairs to get cleaning materials. She got better in time, and i think it just took for her bladder to get bigger. Now, and i hate when this happens, but a few times she has been home for 12 and 14 hours (i know this sounds like abuse, but a few times there were things out of my control) anyway, she will not go in the house, she waits. Now the only problem i have is keeping her from eating off the ground outside. So just be patient, by the time she's full grown, if she wasn't potty trained, she will be by then.
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