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Old 07-18-2010, 11:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sit...no, don't lay! GAH!

Okay, so how do I go about teaching my dog the difference between sit and down. When I tell her to "Sit" half the time she'll sit, but depending on if she's excited or not, when I say "sit" she'll lay down. I've tried to give her positive reinforcement when I say "sit" as in I'll say "sit" then she sits and I say "good girl, sit, good girl" to try and make her associate her actions with sit. But half the time if I say "sit" when she's already sitting she'll lay down.

I've also tried to show her what I mean. Prolly not the best thing in the world...ha. But if she lays down when I tell her to sit, I'll put my hand firmly on her butt and try to put her in a "sit" position, but at that point she's not having it and stands up. So I'm at a loss! ha

So my question is what's the best way to make her realize the difference sit and down? Prolly a silly question, but they're are a LOT more experienced people here at training dogs than me! lol Thanks for any input and comments as always it's greatly appreciated!
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Old 07-18-2010, 01:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try using a clicker to mark the behavior you want
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Old 07-18-2010, 04:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've found before I get into training, I'll take Lex for exercise. A long run typically - which helps utilize extra energy & helps him focus on training instead of getting overexcited. Never used a clicker so I'm not familiar with the results - just verbal commands, praise & occasional treats.

I do one trick at a time & keep at the same routine until he gets it down pat.. Then I'll move onto something else once I see he's bored & wants to learn something new
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Old 07-18-2010, 05:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Clickers are good. What does she do when you tell her down? You should only be saying the command once and then enforcing it. If she stands up either place her back in position or lure her with treats. Then praise.
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Old 07-18-2010, 07:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Argos does this too, lol.
I taught him 'standup.' When I say sit and he lays down, its 'nope, standup!' then 'sit' and rinse and repeat until he gets it.
I don't know about wearing him out before you train, I find that mine will generally do the lay down thing if he's tired.
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Confusion happens a lot with dogs, especially if they are younger. Clickers do work great yes, and so does positive reinforcement.

Akasha had this problem after we taught her the command "Lay down" - I'm not really sure why this is confusing for her to determine "Sit" or "Lay", but something you can try is we use the method of voice change.

We try telling Akasha to "Sit" in one voice - then "Lay down" is in another voice. I know this sounds weird but it has helped her realize what we are asking.
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Argos does this too, lol.
I taught him 'standup.' When I say sit and he lays down, its 'nope, standup!' then 'sit' and rinse and repeat until he gets it.
I don't know about wearing him out before you train, I find that mine will generally do the lay down thing if he's tired.
Huh???? ^^^ Is your dog typically sleepy... or hyper. If your dog is hyper, how do you get him/her to concentrate properly in the beginning stages of training?

My thoughts are just a word of advice from experience...
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Old 07-19-2010, 03:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Huh???? ^^^ Is your dog typically sleepy... or hyper. If your dog is hyper, how do you get him/her to concentrate properly in the beginning stages of training?

My thoughts are just a word of advice from experience...
Lol my pup's lazy most of the time. Until we go outside. Indoor training was no problem getting him to concentrate. Outdoors is a different story.
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Your best method is to lure him into the proper position with a treat. When you say sit, have a hand signal. I find the easiest method is to put all finger tips together (like when someone in a pasta sauce commercial kisses their fingers and say "bellisimo" lol). Hold the treat in the middle of your fingertips (that way the hand signal is still the same, even when you phase out the treat). You will want to bait the dog with the treat ie, let them smell it. then say "sit" and move the treat upward so they are looking at it, and move it slightly behind their gaze so they have to lean their head back to see it, with their nose pointed up. This should make them naturally go into a sit, and if it doesn't gently push their rump down. The position of the treat will keep them in the sit. Count out in your head about 3 seconds, and then use your high praise word, "yes" or "right" or whatever you use, and give the treat. As soon as the dog has the treat, give the release word, "all done" or whatever you use immediately. Grab a toy to lure them right out of the sit so they know they were released (you want to make sure you give the release before they break the sit on their own once they have the treat, as puppies are fickle creatures with very short attention spans). Eventually they will know the release word means they can get up, but until they do, you can bait them with play. Repeat this for several minutes a few times a day (if the dog looks bored, stop, as young pups lose interest quickly and you want training to be fun). The next day, wait 5 seconds, and so on, until they get it. Do not ever give up when they haven't complied, do not give a treat unless he does what is asked, and do not repeat yourself, if he doesn't comply, do what I said, push the rump down and focus on treat. Once he gets it. You can start moving the treat out of that zone. If he gets up, say sit again, and push the rump down if need be. If he wants the treat he will start to get the picture.
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Until he gets it try training on a leash. This way when you put your dog in a sit and he starts to lay down you give a tug and bring him back into the sit position easily and repeat the word "sit". Once he gets it praise like you are a crazy person. i don't use alot of treats I use lots of praise. Also instead of using a clicker I click my tounge. I have always done thi . I taught my rabbits to come to my clicking my tounge. I always have it with me and i can use it faster than i can a doodad in my hand.



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