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Old 09-05-2010, 04:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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potty training my first dog....Tips?

Today i brought home my first dog! his name is bentley hes 6 week old red nose/blue nose pitbull! Im just curious about other peoples potty training strategies and if anyone has any tips or comments they would like to share it would be greatly appreciated.

the most effcient way to use puppy pads?

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6 weeks is really young so you have to take your pup out often to go potty. Key times is after eating, drinking a lot, waking up from sleeping, after play, and basically every 30 mins for a while is you best strategy till he gets a little older. Supervision is the key you cannot correct a puppy for peeing or pooping in the house unless you catch them. They do not understand the correction if you did not catch them in the act so that is really important. Start crate training now so you can set good habits and your pup should sleep in the crate, now he cannot hold it all night so if he wakes up in the night take him out. This should last till about 12 weeks then they can start sleeping through the night.
If you so catch him going potty then say "NO" pick him up and take him out. when you do take him out and he goes potty then praise him you can also give it a name and teach them to go on command. I say "go potty" and all my dogs go on command it makes traveling easy.

I would not use puppy pad as we never want to encourage going potty in the house. What you could do is use them in the crate in case he has an accident.


Here is info on crate training, this article I wrote for my puppy class.

Crate Training

A crate is one of the most valuable items you could buy your dog. If you have not started crate training it’s not to late to introduce it to your puppy.

There are many different types of crates or kennels. They range from fancy wire crates to a plain plastic airline crate. The safest type of crate for a puppy would be a plastic airline crate. Wire crates are great for travel or for an adult dog that is already use to going in a crate. Wire crates can be very dangerous for puppies if they panic or try to get out. A puppy usually goes through stages in crate training where they try to get out or have a little of separation anxiety. A puppy could easily get caught up in the wire and harm them selves. Safest choice is to use an airline crate or plastic crate. Next you need to size the crate for the puppy. They should be able to stand up, turn around, and lay down comfortably. You may need to purchase another crate as your puppy grows.

Dogs have a natural instinct to “den”. A crate provides a safe place for your puppy to be when you cannot supervise them (going to work or having company over). Unfortunately it is very common for people to get rid of their dogs because of behavior issue that could have been solved by a crate.

Why crate your puppy

v Avoid destructive behaviors and soiling while you are away from your house or cannot supervise your puppy.
v Crates provide a safe place for your puppy. Puppies can be stolen or poisoned in their own back yards. (Unfortunately it happens more than you think)
v Crates help with housebreaking and help teach puppies to control their bowels. Puppies should also sleep in a crate at night.
v Having company over can be a dangerous time for your puppy. People coming in and out of your home can be deadly if your puppy gets outside. Guests that are allergic or scared can have relief by crating your puppy.

There are many great reasons to crate your puppy but a crate should never be used as a punishment. You want your puppy to love the crate not fear it. An adult dog should not have to be in a crate longer than 9 hours. Puppies should start off with 2-3 hours and work their way up to a full workday. Puppies should be able to hold it all night at the age of 12 weeks old.








How to crate train

You should start crating your puppy as soon as you get them. An easy way to introduce the crate is to feed them in the crate with the door open. Put the food in the far back corner of the crate. This will entice them to willing enter the crate on their own. (See the feeing handout) You should continue this step for the first couple of days. If they refuse to go inside you can try a bit of canned food on top of the dry food to offer a better reward.

Next step is to leave them in the crate for small periods of time. The first time your place your puppy in a crate you should be home. You want to make sure they are going to be ok and not go into a full panic. Place them in the crate and go in the other room. Ignore all crying it’s perfectly normal. After you have put them in supervised next is to leave them alone. (If you feel like they are going into a panic and you are worried please call Custom K9 Performance for suggestions)

Going to run an errand that will take less than two hours if perfect! Place your puppy in the crate and say a “ go crate” command. Close the door and leave. Your puppy may cry for a little while in the crate and it is perfectly normal. DO NOT LET THEM OUT if they are crying. If you take them out while they are crying you just taught them that all they need to do to get out is to make noise. It can take them 10 min to 1 hr to relax and stop making noise. Leaving the house relives your anxiety while they are crying. This stage usually only last a couple of days.

Crating at night is essential to preventing them from soiling the house or being destructive while you sleep. Once you introduce the crate with food, you can begin leaving them in the crate at night. Give them a “go crate” command and put them up for the night. Puppies younger than 12 weeks may wake you up in the middle of the night to go outside. They cannot hold it all night. After 12 weeks stop getting up in the middle of the night and let them learn to sleep without getting up. Same thing applies at night if they cry don’t let them out.

Appropriate bedding for a crate should be simple when you have a young dog. Remember they are young and will have accidents. The best thing to use is an old towel that can easily be washed. Once your puppy learns to not soil the crate then you can by a nice crate pad. Important note: If you notice that they are eating the towel. Take it out immediately. Some dogs like to eat the bedding and it can be a fatal mistake if it gets stuck in the gut. If they are just chewing a corner or two just monitor the towel. It’s normal behavior for them to be inquisitive and chew.

Proper toys can help them not to get board or have anxiety while you are gone. “Kongs” and “Nylabones” are the safest toy for you puppies. If you have aggressive chewers those should be the only toys allowed for them to play with unsupervised. “Kongs” are great because you can stuff many interesting things in them to keep your puppy busy. Peanut butter is real popular because it sticks inside and makes your puppy work to get it all out. “Kongs” can also be stuffed with canned food and put in the freezer over night. This makes a great treat that lasts a long time.
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lisa hit the nail on the head. all i did was use a clicker. every 20-35min i took him out kept saying go potty. when he did go potty i would say the word while clicking and give a reward. he was broken in less than 10 days. i did pick onyx up just shy of 8 weeks also. i never had a problem with crate training. as soon as i heard him cry i went downstairs and did the potty cycle over again.
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I'm about to lose my cool with zeus. Zeus is 15 weeks old and I thought he was doing a fine job with potty training. Well My main problem is right now I take him out at night around 10pm he goes #1 and #2. I then put him in his crate to go to sleep. Well he wakes me up at around 7 am by whining. By the time its 7:02 and I get to his cage its filled with pee and poop. Thank god I put newspaper in there. So I then annoyingly take him outside to go pee and poop. Well he usually pees but doesnt have to poop due to the fact that he just crapped in his cage. So I feed him and take him put again. He pees but no poop. I then tie him up in the living room and 2 min later he craps in my house. And suggestions. Maybe I need to wake up at like 6:45 to see if hes doing it right at 7am. But idk. Please help
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He may be whining in the middle of the night also. How large of a crate are you using
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He may be whining in the middle of the night also. How large of a crate are you using
The a pretty big one. I have heard from some people thats not a problem but others say it should be much smaller. He's getting better but still having many issues. And how often should I have to take him out now during the day. I know the standard after nappng, eating drinking,playing etc. but should it still be every 1 1/2 hrs at 15 weeks or should I try to start increasing that going out potty time.
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The a pretty big one. I have heard from some people thats not a problem but others say it should be much smaller. He's getting better but still having many issues. And how often should I have to take him out now during the day. I know the standard after nappng, eating drinking,playing etc. but should it still be every 1 1/2 hrs at 15 weeks or should I try to start increasing that going out potty time.
i had the same problem with cheza with the pee, i downsized her crate and haven't had a problem since, get a cheap 24" from CL he will outgrow it fast but it took cheza like 3 days to get that she shouldn't go in there once i downsized, then she was able to go back to her big kennel

also small kennels are great for future pups and your small dog if needed
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i had the same problem with cheza with the pee, i downsized her crate and haven't had a problem since, get a cheap 24" from CL he will outgrow it fast but it took cheza like 3 days to get that she shouldn't go in there once i downsized, then she was able to go back to her big kennel

also small kennels are great for future pups and your small dog if needed
My only thing regarding a small crate is that I work retail and there are times that I may be away from the house for 8-10hrs. And the thought of him being in a crate where he can barely move seems sad. I do have a small crate that I use for my 3 yr old sheltie shitzu mix that could work fine. So I don't know if I should just have zeus use that for a couple of days or what?

Basically the rule of thumb with Zeus right now is if he is in that crate for more than lets say 3 to 3 1/2 hrs he will go #1 and maybe #2. So maybe thats normal maybe not. I'm not sure
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Heres a pic of the contraption I am going to try and work with for zeus' crate being to big

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Heres a pic of the contraption I am going to try and work with for zeus' crate being to big


buy a crate divider. they're cheap and you can move it as he grows. if he's using the bathroom in the crate at night i think you should set an alarm to wake you up at 3 or 4am for a quick potty break. it's just like having a baby. you're gonna need to make a sacrifice until he gets the hang of it otherwise he'll get used to it and you're never going to break him of it. don't give him water overnight. he'll drink out of boredom and you'll end up with a mess in the morning. i don't think you should put newspapers or blankets in there either for now, especially if you use newspapers or puppy pads in his actual potty spot. if he's on the plastic and has to lay in it he'll learn to hold it (sounds mean, but it'll snap him out of it - just make sure to bathe him and clean it...obviously lol). if you're going to be at work for 8 hours and he doesn't know to hold it yet...i think you should leave him in a bathroom with a puppy pad or two. this way he doesn't get FORCED to go in his crate and lay in it until you get home. that could confuse him, mess up your work on breaking the habit, or make him hate his crate. at 15 weeks i think 8 hours straight is a little too long to expect him to hold it. he can even get urinary infections from constantly holding it too long at this age. hope this helps a bit.


edit: i know lisa said not to wake up in the middle of the night at 15 weeks, but he obviously doesn't get it right now. do it for maybe another week so he sees it should be a clean area. then go back to sleeping through the night. JMO
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Try the smaller kennel at night see if he still potties in there, if so we can work from there. If not well then we address you gone extended periods of tome. Size appropriate kennels are not cruel dogs are den animals he should feel safe and comfortable in his kennel and you can also upgrade later
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