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Old 03-04-2011, 06:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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My pit won't stop barking thru fence at neighbors' dog

6 year old male, neutered a year ago, great with people, always been aggressive with other dogs. ( except for ours, we have 5 other dogs, all female. Rott, German Shepard, retriever, and 2 mutts ) they are all indoor, we live in the city but have a very large back yard. They do not get taken for walks very often.
My neighbor has 2 small type yappers that for the life of me, I cannot get my pit to stop barking at them and trying to dig under the fence to get to them. It is a wood privacy fence, but can see thru some of the slats. If I go out there, and yell his name, he looks at me, acknowledges I'm there, but then keeps on going. All of the other dogs will come in. I have to actually walk all the way over to him, say his name, then he will tuck tail, drop head, and start to cowardly jog away as if I'm holding a stick and going to beat him. But if I call him, tap on the window, or yell at him, he acknowledges for a second or two, then continues. It is driving me crazy.
We have put up an electric wire before, which did prevent the digging. ( had
to take it down but in the process of putting it back up ) but does nothing with
the barking. Have tried shock collars before with mixed success ( innotek )
Problem is he has a very high tolerance for pain, and is very stubborn. Love
him to death, but it is taking a toll on me. I dont want to cause him pain, but
want it to stop as well. Luckily my neighbor has been very understanding, but
I still feel bad.
Any advice other than he is bored? I am recently disabled, so daily or even bi weekly walking is an issue for me.I fear we just didn't train him well enough
and he is too old to change. And my wife will kick my butt out if I try to give him away.
Thanks in advance
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Work on the "leave it" command and work out a yard schedule with your neighbor. Those two combined should alleviate the stress for you. Maybe you could consider getting a carpet mill for him to exercise on.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If your dogs are outside most of the time I'd look into a good chain set up. This breed is known for it's strength and power, and I'm sure you don't want to loose your dogs. Accidents can happen quickly and if your dog actually gets out of your fence and gets the other dogs AC will come take them away.



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Old 03-04-2011, 07:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
 

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Yeah, thought about asking him about a schedule, but feel like it shouldnt have to come to that. That I should be able to get my dog to stop barking, regardless of what the other dogs are doing. I'm recently retired, and neighbor is still in the military, so he doesn't have a set schedule. But like ur other idea, might look into that. I know if I just went out there with him every time, that would help, but I'm unable to most of the time, and I hate to limit their time outside since they are indoor most of the time, but with the barking, I can't help it. ( just the pit and the rott, she follows his lead, but is a better listener and will stop or come in when called ) the others I can leave outside for 20 mins without having to worry.
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I tell my wife that all the time, if he gets out and kills a dog, we are gonna be in lots of trouble and heartache. They are inside majority of the day. Let them out 10 times a day or so, but the pit gets his time limited cause of the barking and aggression towards the neighbors' dogs.
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Ecko had a great idea too. Work on the "leave it" command with him. I'd start by taking him out and have some hot dog pieces handy. When he barks tell him leave it and when he comes back to you give him some of the hot dog. After a while he should get the hang of it



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Ye ma'am , will start working with him on that this weekend. Wife said she will help me, so we will be out in the yard cleaning up and setting the electric fence back up, and will have him out there with us by himself without our other dogs distracting.
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Does anyone think taking him to a professional trainer is worth it, being he is almost 6 years old?
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Does anyone think taking him to a professional trainer is worth it, being he is almost 6 years old?
Honestly, I think your dog/dogs need a good daily walk and more mental stimulation. Seeing the same yard everyday and not getting out for excercise would drive me nuts to. I know u said you are disabled but can you find a reliable dog walker who is insured to come and take your boy for walks a few times a week? I mean you can try a trainer but I think he is just bored and seeing and trying to get to those little dogs is giving him something to do to occupy himself.
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There could also be neighbor hood kids trying to make extra money after school who might be willing to walk him for you. Everyone has great idea's about training him to leave it, and I also do not think he is too old for a trainer to come and assist you with him, but you need to re0enforce the training, not just hope once a week would work for the pup. I think the bottom line is pay for a dog walker before paying for a trainer. Or maybe see if your wife will walk him. My pup is very hard headed without getting some good play time, like when its raining or too cold. I can tell if he wasn't walked that much the day before. Your other dogs might need a good walk too, but the Pit Bull is notorious for getting into trouble when they are bored and under stimulated. I got my Grandmother's is treadmill for my pup to use when we are prevented from going outside and getting moving.
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If the no bark collars did not work then you have to teach him that is not allowed. This is something I would consider using a remote shock collar since you can turn the correction level really high if needed. You want enough correction to stop the behavior but not enough to cause him a large amount of pain. You can try a remote but you really have to know how to use on or you can make your problem worse.

The other option would be putting him on leash and doing training to leave the other dogs alone. If he is a real hard head I would put him on a well fitting prong collar and 6 foot leash. Go over to the fence and if he even so much as looked at the dogs I would tell him NO or Leave it and pop him hard enough for him not to look. It is easier to correct him for the thought of going after them vs when he is in high drive. That is why the shock no bark is not working he is already in really high drive and the pain tolerance goes really high. That is why with a remote you can get him as soon as he starts interest or you can put him on leash and get him. Once he is good on the 6 foot leash I would go to a long line. If you are going to have him on leash it will take a lot of work and why the remote might work better. If you consider the remote I can give a better explanation of how to use it. If you were my client who had this problem and the no barks did not work I would work with you and a remote collar. The remote is good because it have adjustable levels you can adjust with the remote, it also takes you out of the picture so you can get him at a distance. If you are not part of the correction and he thinks just the thought of that dog will get him in trouble then he will learn to leave them alone when your not around vs just when you are outside.

When we moved to our new property my neighbors have about 15 little yappy dogs and Dixie would have to go outside on leash to the dog runs or she would try to run t o the fence to try and kill them. I spent about 2 weeks with an remote collar and long line teaching her that fence line will get her in trouble. She still sits in her dog run and looks at them and tries to think of ways to kill them but she will not go anywhere near those dog when I let her out to the dog runs. I have used remotes a lot with fence fighting issues over the years and it seems to work the best.
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