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Old 06-02-2011, 10:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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6 month old aggressive playing?

within the past month my 6month will get really aggressive and hyper with her playing. Whenever she thinks its time to play she will run up to me or my girlfriend and try nipping at our hands or feet. Whenever we try and tell her no its like a trigger goes off in her brain that it means to go crazy. She will start barking, run around like crazy and whenever she runs back try and bite our hands. Most of the time I will try and stand tall and get right in her face but sometimes she will just stare at me until I walk away and then go right back to barking. I've also tried flipping her over on her back to calm her down, sometimes it works, sometimes it makes her go even crazier.

Any help??? Is it the puppy in her or do I maybe need some OB classes?
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That's doesn't sound like aggression at all, sounds like a case of hyper puppy. Also, I'd stop flipping her on her back all together. Dogs don't do that to each other to calm each other down, nor will the "dominant" dog make contact, so flipping your dog over is actually very stressful to them and seen as more of being very rude(assertive) and may even be seen as you attacking them.

I don't have a great mental image of the situation it sounds like she runs up, nips you, barks, runs around again. A lot of dogs do that when they get excited, sometimes the best thing to do is just let them let it out. Throw a ball or play tug-o-war. You can also whip out some treats are start rewarding the calm behavior. And give her the attention and play with his after she sits for you calmly. Then she'll learn being calm = getting to play or attention.

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Old 06-02-2011, 11:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I personally think every pup should go to OB classes , as for flipping her on her back that does nothing but make you seem rude and demeaning in her eyes . You cant get a apbt to do things for you through fear they have to respect you . She is 6 months old , we own a very active breed and yes some puppies that get over excited nip . When she nips you should make a very high pitched noise like a fellow pup would if she bit them to hard , then turn around and ignore her until she can play nicely . Do you walk her everyday ? Do anything to get her up and moving ? our breed can get severe behavioral problems from lack of excersize and having no way to get out all the energy in a postive way .. She sounds very frustrated to me . Try a morning walk some play time during the day and a walk at night before bed . That is what I have to do with Izzo or she start attacking the cat and doing hot laps around my house .
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Old 06-03-2011, 12:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I personally think every pup should go to OB classes , as for flipping her on her back that does nothing but make you seem rude and demeaning in her eyes . You cant get a apbt to do things for you through fear they have to respect you . She is 6 months old , we own a very active breed and yes some puppies that get over excited nip . When she nips you should make a very high pitched noise like a fellow pup would if she bit them to hard , then turn around and ignore her until she can play nicely . Do you walk her everyday ? Do anything to get her up and moving ? our breed can get severe behavioral problems from lack of excersize and having no way to get out all the energy in a postive way .. She sounds very frustrated to me . Try a morning walk some play time during the day and a walk at night before bed . That is what I have to do with Izzo or she start attacking the cat and doing hot laps around my house .


Lack of exercise is frequently the cause for issues such as excited nipping and very very boisterous puppies in class. Some dogs just getting out to walk everyday is enough. My own boy needs loooong bike rides or he'll give the other dogs heck out of boredom.
Getting that energy out, and teaching them that controlled themselves leads to rewards is great.
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Old 06-03-2011, 12:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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What you should do is definitely Ob classes but to fix this problem it is as simple as having her on leash. Get a cheap nylon leash, cut the handle off and let her drag it around. If she gets hyper and tries to nip snap the leash and give a pop and tell her no. The leash provides a way to correct her without chasing around and making a game of it. If she is excited and it is time to play correct her for nipping and then go get a toy and play tug or what ever games you play with her. Lots of problems can be corrected by having them on leash as a way to correct them without chasing them down. The reason for a cheap nylon leash is she may chew on it a bit but you can use bitter apple to correct that. Cutting the handle off helps her not get snagged on furniture.
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Old 06-03-2011, 04:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
 

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thanks for the input guys. When she first started doing this I made sure she got walked a lot. Everyday before I go to work I take her on the same walk, its about a mile. Whenever my girlfriend gets home from work she usually takes her on the same walk, its along a lake so its pretty interested for the pup.

And im not sure if I worded wrong but I didnt mean That I put her on her back, I just simply roll her over on her side, and while holding her down just say no. Another thing I do when she snaps is sometimes i'll lightly squeeze her snout. Are these not the right things to be doing to teach her the correct things?
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thanks for the input guys. When she first started doing this I made sure she got walked a lot. Everyday before I go to work I take her on the same walk, its about a mile. Whenever my girlfriend gets home from work she usually takes her on the same walk, its along a lake so its pretty interested for the pup.

And im not sure if I worded wrong but I didnt mean That I put her on her back, I just simply roll her over on her side, and while holding her down just say no. Another thing I do when she snaps is sometimes i'll lightly squeeze her snout. Are these not the right things to be doing to teach her the correct things?
I personally never forcefully pin a animal down . When Caesar does it he seems to think that its pack mentality . When really in a real pack the other dog does not force the submissive one to the ground, the other dog does it on its own submitting to the dominant dog . So forcing them to do it doesn't really make them submit mentally and physically just physically . The squeezing of the snout I have had to do with Izzo , just lightly though so I get the point across that she shouldn't be biting me . Like I said earlier you should try to YIP in a high pitch every time she does it and then turn your back to her, really refuse to give her attention until she comes up to you in a calm submissive way .. then when she does, play tug with her or throw a ball something to let her know that when she comes up to you in the proper way she will get the attention she wants ..

I am happy to hear that you are walking her , that is a very important thing . Some puppies just have a problem with playtime Verse rest time . try the above and see if it helps .. also I would look into some OB classes for her or maybe even a puppy socialization class . She just sounds like a overly happy girl lol =D let me know how it works out for you .. and please dont take my above answer as if I was being rude I know sometimes I may seem it. I just really try to be honest in my post and help people to the best of my capability .
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I personally never forcefully pin a animal down . When Caesar does it he seems to think that its pack mentality . When really in a real pack the other dog does not force the submissive one to the ground, the other dog does it on its own submitting to the dominant dog . So forcing them to do it doesn't really make them submit mentally and physically just physically . The squeezing of the snout I have had to do with Izzo , just lightly though so I get the point across that she shouldn't be biting me . Like I said earlier you should try to YIP in a high pitch every time she does it and then turn your back to her, really refuse to give her attention until she comes up to you in a calm submissive way .. then when she does, play tug with her or throw a ball something to let her know that when she comes up to you in the proper way she will get the attention she wants ..

I am happy to hear that you are walking her , that is a very important thing . Some puppies just have a problem with playtime Verse rest time . try the above and see if it helps .. also I would look into some OB classes for her or maybe even a puppy socialization class . She just sounds like a overly happy girl lol =D let me know how it works out for you .. and please dont take my above answer as if I was being rude I know sometimes I may seem it. I just really try to be honest in my post and help people to the best of my capability .


I agree, it isn't really "calming" the dog. A lot of the times when you see the dog fighting and fighting and they finally stop it's because they can't do anything. Google "Learned Helplessness." Cesar Millan type training does that to a dog, the dogs may appear better but if you study body language and behavior the discomfort is obvious. And dogs just don't think like that.

If yipping doesn't work try saying "Eh eh!" in a deep voice, a verbal correction.
I've noticed dogs getting frustrated and snapping out more with snout grabbing, I'd avoid that for this situation.
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I personally never forcefully pin a animal down . When Caesar does it he seems to think that its pack mentality . When really in a real pack the other dog does not force the submissive one to the ground, the other dog does it on its own submitting to the dominant dog . So forcing them to do it doesn't really make them submit mentally and physically just physically . The squeezing of the snout I have had to do with Izzo , just lightly though so I get the point across that she shouldn't be biting me . Like I said earlier you should try to YIP in a high pitch every time she does it and then turn your back to her, really refuse to give her attention until she comes up to you in a calm submissive way .. then when she does, play tug with her or throw a ball something to let her know that when she comes up to you in the proper way she will get the attention she wants ..

I am happy to hear that you are walking her , that is a very important thing . Some puppies just have a problem with playtime Verse rest time . try the above and see if it helps .. also I would look into some OB classes for her or maybe even a puppy socialization class . She just sounds like a overly happy girl lol =D let me know how it works out for you .. and please dont take my above answer as if I was being rude I know sometimes I may seem it. I just really try to be honest in my post and help people to the best of my capability .
Oh no I didnt take it rude at all, and I thank you for your input! She is a very happy girl and gets plenty of love. Shes just hit this stage all of a sudden to when me or my girlfriend want to come up to her in a calm way and want to love on her and kiss her, she wants to pull back and start nipping and playing. I guess shes starting to be like a rebelous teenager? lol. She loves to chew things to, but lord she can not keep a toy for more then a day. Ive bought her bones that she chews up in hours, and these are pretty nice size bones. Ive bought the tire with a rope to play tug of war with her, but shes already chewed the tired in half. Ive heard deer antlers are pretty good for dogs im just not sure where I can find some.
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Oh no I didnt take it rude at all, and I thank you for your input! She is a very happy girl and gets plenty of love. Shes just hit this stage all of a sudden to when me or my girlfriend want to come up to her in a calm way and want to love on her and kiss her, she wants to pull back and start nipping and playing. I guess shes starting to be like a rebelous teenager? lol. She loves to chew things to, but lord she can not keep a toy for more then a day. Ive bought her bones that she chews up in hours, and these are pretty nice size bones. Ive bought the tire with a rope to play tug of war with her, but shes already chewed the tired in half. Ive heard deer antlers are pretty good for dogs im just not sure where I can find some.
Have you tried Kongs? Dakota is a destroyer of toys and his Kongs last him a long time. And you can put peanut butter in them, even freeze the peanut butter so they entertain themselves for a bit. Great for crating too. Some dogs even carry their toys when they get excited, that can help with the nipping.

If she goes through Kongs, these are even stronger. GoughNuts Dog Chew Toy

With a lot of high energy or boisterous dogs you have to teach them that controlling themselves = get what they want.
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Have you tried Kongs? Dakota is a destroyer of toys and his Kongs last him a long time. And you can put peanut butter in them, even freeze the peanut butter so they entertain themselves for a bit. Great for crating too. Some dogs even carry their toys when they get excited, that can help with the nipping.

If she goes through Kongs, these are even stronger. GoughNuts Dog Chew Toy

With a lot of high energy or boisterous dogs you have to teach them that controlling themselves = get what they want.
Yeah at first she didnt like the kong very much but shes grew to like it a little more. I fill it with peanut butter but with everything else the peanut butter is gone in no time and I dont want to feep filling it because she would probably eat peanut butter all day lol. Sometimes when she gets it all out she starts trying to rip the kong apart by biting the ends off so I have to take it away from her.

And another thing, we try and get her with as many dogs as we can. The things is we just cant find one that she doesnt try to run over. Every little dog she scares the crap out of them because she goes nuts and starts running back and forth over them. Our friends have a huskie/shepard mix and the thing is way bigger then her. Whenever we get them together she still just goes after him ( not in a mean way ) just playing to rough. Its not just them jumping on each other and rolling around. Its like 2 guys that are best friends having a pretty intense wrestling match. Im always afraid that she will get hurt.
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Group obedience classes could help with that. Generally socializing with a well socialized dog is best, the well socialized dog will correct the behaviors and set boundaries. You could try leashing her up, removing her from the situations whenever she gets too pushy. Have her sit and reward her for attention, when she calms down go back and try again. Just an idea
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