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Old 02-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Unhappy Five month old pup biting 8 yrold son

Can anyone shed some light on this dilemma. My pup has taken to the belief that my son is his play toy. My son who has been told constantly to leave our pup alone gets him rowled up ... they play great together but then our pup gets rough and the mouthing leads to more than gentle bites. So much so that you can clearly see the pups lunge. We are always present and we will correct him, tell him to stop playtime fold arms, turn away, walk away, etc.
However the pup will continue to bully my son biting at his ankles, legs and hands and arms when my son cant take any more and tries to protect himself.

We tell to the pup no and he stops but it's not a behavior that's welcomed.

I'm not an expert, so I'm looking to hear from any of you guys with expertise in this area. Please assist. All are welcomed to comment.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Five month old pup biting 8 yrold son

Are you create training him ?


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yeah.. I raise em with kids have for entirity of my family.. Look you have a dog that will roughly be 14 year one then they age 5 -7 years per year some as low as 3 then they speed up rapidly again 7-10, some live long and steady 15yrs or so. Right now you have an equivalent of 8-11yr old in the pup and you have an 8yr old son, they both want to play rough..

Use toys.. ropes, chew tire toys, racket balls, solid red kong ball, .. do not use stuffed anything and its best not to use socks or old shoes, unless you want them playing with your shoes forever. Do not encourage your dog to bite anything or anywhere but the toy your using; use (AT) in a corrective tone at the precise moment of disobiedience or mouthing, or biting.. encourage your 8yr old to take charge NOW and do the same with corrective tone. Use fetch games to entertain the dog as well as tug games and flirt pole.

Loud AT should get him to stop and encourage your son to throw his knee and push the pup away with his knee and then with an open hand like STOP .. inthe whoa positition ..use AT .. and NO BITE .. its best to talk very firmly .. not like oh stop.. stop it no no.. no bite.. .. that silly baby talk is not for puppies, do that to a HA dog an you'll get bit quick. Talk to the dog in clear open one syllable words or compound word NO-BITE

that should get you started.. Check out training tips sticky here on GPB


Crate training is a must IMO even if you leave it open most of the time it gives the dog its own space; like a den.
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Five month old pup biting 8 yrold son

I have two 4 month old pups at home, with them getting rough with me I took the approach to teach the dogs that "humans are fragile" I started as soon as their play nips because bites. I purposefully would get them going and as soon as the bit, even a nip I would scream " owwwwww" it grabbed their attention and would stop playing then I would start it over. After a while work on it with them I can get them going and purposefully put my hands in their mouths and the most they will do is gum on my hands... BUT this is during play, this isn't during aggression, which I haven't really seen out of them anyways. All I'm saying is IM NOT A TRAINER AND IM NOT A PRO this just worked for me so I'm sharing


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You got a good idea of it.. scream AT>. gruffly.. Screaming OW! and acting hurt with dogs of prey is just not a good idea. You showed the dog your weakness.. My dogs do not believe they can hurt me by biting; they know that will encourage me to check out their mouth.. first the "fish hook" of the lower jaw under the tongue, then grab the top muzzle with other hand and inspect the mouth.. They soon realize if they show me their mouth I will inspect their mouth and no dog likes that ..

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I have two 4 month old pups at home, with them getting rough with me I took the approach to teach the dogs that "humans are fragile" I started as soon as their play nips because bites. I purposefully would get them going and as soon as the bit, even a nip I would scream " owwwwww" it grabbed their attention and would stop playing then I would start it over. After a while work on it with them I can get them going and purposefully put my hands in their mouths and the most they will do is gum on my hands... BUT this is during play, this isn't during aggression, which I haven't really seen out of them anyways. All I'm saying is IM NOT A TRAINER AND IM NOT A PRO this just worked for me so I'm sharing


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Thanks everyone for the feedback. Much appreciated. Thank you Cains Moms, Autumn, Dynasty and props again to Firehazard. This is a very useful resource for me.
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Hey Firehazard.....what is "AT" I've read your abbreviations and terms but I can't figure out what the meaning of AT is - help, I'm tapping out.
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Say AT.. capital letters when we type mean (yelling or raised voice) So I capitalize the AT to emphasize the need to have a calm direct tone.. as if your mom/dad/grandparent/guardian was getting on to you as a child.. ATTTT! Which is an Indian word for STOP Just like AHA is an Indian derivative.. Means clarity or moment of enlightenment. If you use AT in a calm direct disapointed tone: you'll see not only will one dog listen, they all will.. maybe the neighbors dogs or kids as well.. When I say AT! All the kids and animals stop to see who Im talking to.
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LOL.....omg......I do that all the time.And he listens, stops whatever immediately. Not knowing you were even making that reference.

Thanks a million...its encouraging to know that I'm on the right track.

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