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Old 11-17-2008, 05:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Sit Means Sit thoughts?

Hey I came across a training video while searching for training tips regarding pitbulls on youtube. The training with their dogs seemed amazing so I looked up their website and found they have a location near me in Athens, Georgia.

I have no idea what the costs are but I wanted to see if anyone else had used their training?
Also, is this the type of training where you get to work with your dog while training or do you have to give him/her over and leave? I really want to be involved in the training.



Here's a link to one of the several videos I saw and this one is of a pitbull trained:


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Old 11-17-2008, 08:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
 

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That was a great clip!

Sorry, I've never heard of them, so I don't have any info for you...but I hope someone else can help you.
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OMG that was great. I need them...hahaha

Just found that they have one in my city. Not to far from my house.

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Old 11-17-2008, 08:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I live so far away from anything that I'm lucky to have a dog club let alone one that actual trainers. You should look into it and see if works for you.



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Old 11-17-2008, 09:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
 

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Can't post the interview link yet (not enough posts), but...it's

"Question: The cost of your schools is 6500.00, what does that include?

Fred Hassen: That would include the lodging at the hotel, and the 3 weeks of "hands on" training. There is 'unlimited' free followup from there."


(EDIT: see link next post, from Roxy_Nie below)

Thanks.

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Old 11-17-2008, 09:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Here you go...

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Old 11-17-2008, 11:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Holy Cr*p! That's a lot more than I expected it would cost. I filled out a contact me form for the local SitmeansSit trainer in hopes that cost will be much less. In an economy like this one the last thing I would do is spend that much on training. Knowing me I would find a way to figure out their training techniques and then use them for myself...and pass them on to you all of course!

I'll let you all know what else I find out.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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You got to be kidding me 6k????
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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I thought I would give you all an update.

Prior to finding out about the $6K cost for training with Sit Means Sit I had already filled out one of the "contact me" forms on the local shops website. The owner of that franchise called me lastnight and let me know that the $6k training was a two week course in Chicago. That paid for the travel, hotel, food, and the dog training for 2 weeks.

Otherwise they have many different plans starting at about $200. Or they can customize training for you to work on just the things that you feel need addressed.

They do a free evaluation of your dog and I've got one scheduled for this Sunday. I'll get to meet with the trainer and the trainer will get to meet Bubba. I think they try to figure out how quickly your dog will learn with their techniques and use that to "quote" pricing for custom work with your dog.

I can tell you that I have figured out that they use E-collar (shock collars) to train your dog. I've done some research on these collars and it's not what you'd expect. I thought of it hurting your dog until it complies with your command. But its more like touching your dog to get and keep it's attention. They are set on a very low setting but each dog is different. Look on their website to find out more about their collars but I can say they have me interested in possibly getting my own collar and use it to train Bubba after I've learned the Sit Means Sit techniques thru taking one of their classes.

I'll keep you posted...
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Thanks for the update. Keep us posted on your progress.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Happy Monday! (Forgive the long post)

I've got an update for everyone. Yesterday we had a trainer over from Sit Means Sit to do the free evaluation on Bubba. We talked for a while and told her what we were doing and how much excercise I was giving him but that his obedience was more of a he'll do it if he wants to, not because I'm telling him to. I also explained how he's learned when I have treats and when I don't so he listens when I have them and doesn't really when I don't. The trainer explained how common that is and I loved that she wasn't bothered that Bubba was a pitbull and actually said she loves pits and that they are great dogs with a bad reputation.

So after talking she showed me the remote collar they use and tried it out on my hand, we started at level one, then two, and finally I could barely feel it on level three. It was very much like that stimulators they use on you at the chiropractor or physical training to do rehap (for those of you like me who've banned them selves up in their younger years).

She put the collar on Bubba and we went out to see a demonstration from her dog (1 of 4). This dog was a mix that she rescued from the shelter (golden retriever mix). The obvious thing you notice first how well the dog listens and responds to her. The second thing you notice is how quietly she speaks to her dog, even when at a distance. The next thing you notice is that her dog completely ignored Bubba, didn't even care he was there. I wished I could have said the same about Bubba. He was embarassing whining and crying, pulling on his leash to go meet this new dog.

The trainer explained that she wouldn't show us any fancy tricks, just normal things that Bubba will learn during his training with me while taking their training. I loved that I would be working with him! She gave her dog a command and off he went to stand on a big power box type thing at the end of our yard. Up he jumped, turned around and sat down waiting for the next command. The trainer then set up a few step stool type things and she called her dog back to her and then to sit on one of the stools, then the other. Then she said it was ok for the dog to come meet us and Bubba. Over he came, very happy to meet us and Bubba.

Next she sent her dog away to wait and then took Bubba's leash. She then began to find the right level for the collar for Bubba to respond. Once Bubba shook his head like his ears iched or something, she stopped there. Keep in mind the whole time Bubba is totally acting up because he wants to go play with that other dog and it wants nothing to do with him. As Bubba was pulling on the leash, and making noise to go ove to that other dog, the trainer activated the collar and called Bubba to her. He immediately responded and came to her. He quickly learned that if he was beside her that the collar didn't do anything, but if he was pulling on the leash she would call him back and the collar would get his attention and over he would come.

I'm sure I'm not explaining it very well but I'm doing my best. I must tell you all, at no time did Bubba seem like he was being hurt and at all times the trainer seemed very calm and talked quietly. I was very impressed with the whole thing.

Ok, Let's talk about the damage. How much does this all cost. It's not exactly cheap, but then again, this isn't Petsmart training either.

Puppy classes for basic obedience which include 2 private lessons and cover about 8-12 weeks. Puppy will learn things like Potty training, Come, Off, Sit, and No Play-bitting/digging/chewing/jumping. cost is $200 plus the cost of a remote collar.

Next up from that is what they call their Ultimate Private and Group Training Program. This one includes 3 private lessons and Unlimited Group lessons for the life of the dog! With this they will cover any Behavioral issues and nuisance behaviors but also the following commands: Come, sit, wait, down, place, quiet, off, walk on leash, car manners, house breaking issues, no chewing, no digging, no jumping, no play bitting, no bark, no mouthing, no excessive licking, boundary training, and controlling agression.

During the group lessons you can learn any sort of tricks and people along with the trainer share tips and techniques to help learn new things to constantly keep your dog learning, active, and around other good acting social dogs.
Cost for this one is $650 plus the cost of the collar.


Cost of the collar is $ 220

I love the fact that you get ulimited group lessons for life so you can keep working with your dog and be with other like minded people. If anything its a cool social activity that gets you out of the house.

I think my wife and I have made the decision to suck it up and get the Ultimate training package. Oh I forgot to mention that they'll do payment plans as well. So I think only the fist time it's going to sting because I need to get the collar and a third of the class. Not exactly sure when we're going to do this, I have a follow up call with the trainer today.

Any ways, sorry for the long post and any sp mistakes as I'm trying to hurry. but feel free to ask any questions and I'll do my best to answer.
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Wow....For that price we can do it too...Thanks for updating!!
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Wow....For that price we can do it too...Thanks for updating!!
Honestly, I didn't think it was too bad either. Granted for me it's still a little expensive, but I think it will be well worth the investment. Not to mention, you keep the remote collar and it's expandable to 3 dogs. The lessons you learn as well so there's no reason you couldn't train additional dogs/new dogs the same things. Although, if you do want to go back they give you a pretty good discount for additional dogs....sorry I can't remember how much but I believe it was over half off.

Oh and I forgot to mention, they give you 10% off if you decide to get the training within 72 hours of the free evaluation.

I think we're going to find a way to make it work finacially. For me I'm also thinking of it as an insurance policy.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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I found this cool video from the same training company with a human and dog aggressive pitbull. He looks and sounds like a monster! LOL

Check it out!

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that was incredible. wish i could get that for ziggy hes to small though he wouldnt understand..lol
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