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Old 02-01-2020, 11:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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I have a 5 month amstaff and I keep getting asked what color she is. I figure she is technically a blue but I generally just say grey since she isn't your typical blue.
Mom is blue, dad is black. Her skin in very light grey or pink with light grey freckles. Nose and eyeliner are dark grey, eye are also dark with a slight brownish tint.

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Old 02-01-2020, 11:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
 

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Old 02-03-2020, 02:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Her color would just be blue on paperwork if she had any.
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Old 02-03-2020, 03:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
 

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Thank you. The gold tips threw me off. No paperwork and I suspect her dad is actually a AB as he is around 100lbs.

She is just a pet so her breed isn't really that important. I just wanted a sweet bully which she is.

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She's cute for sure and has very sweet eyes.

Some blue dogs have highlights. It's similar to the color seal. Seal= black dog with brownish/reddish highlights. There's just no other color term for blue. There is only blue.
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
 

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I read about seal yesterday, I was very surprised to find no blue version. Is seal just a version of black or is it a actual recessive gene?

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any thoughts on them? I know dad is papered but I don't know what as.
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Genetics is a long conversation. Lets just say that blue "seal" just isn't a color in registries. So your dog is blue.

Without a pedigree in the this day and age of dogs registered as the wrong breed and people crossing over the bull breeds, it is just impossible to tell. Given her color she is VERY unlikely to be a true game bred APBT. More likely Amstaff or AmBully or a cross thereof.
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Old 02-03-2020, 11:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Seal is a dilution of the black gene.

The seal brown color is produced by the Agouti ("A") gene acting upon a genetically black base coat, suppressing the black into point coloration and allowing the underlying reddish or brownish color to appear.

Blue color is a dilution of the D Locus gene.

Both are a dilution of the Black gene.

Both Seal and Blue are listed as color choices under the ADBA color guide. I don't know about UKC or AKC as I have APBTs.

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Old 02-03-2020, 11:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
 

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Thank you AGK, thats the info I was after.

I never though she was a proper game pit and honestly, I wouldn't want one, I'm just not the right kind of owner.
I've always been a bit partial to amstaff's. I like some of the ambullys but they are being breed to ridiculous proportions.

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Old 02-03-2020, 11:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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UKC also accepts blue as a color. I didn't bother looking up AKCs chart. The pup looks seal to me from the photo. Though I did not see that as a listed color with UKC. It is however a recognised color in ADBA. Seal can be a hard color to tell from photos. I have a few that color.. In low light they look black and in direct sunlight they appear reddish or brownish in color.
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Old 02-03-2020, 11:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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My dogs throw a seal color every now and then.

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Old 02-04-2020, 12:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
 

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Luna isn't that dark, she never looks black and the gold shows even in low light. There is no reddish or even regular brown.

I do like the seals, that dog of yours is nice.

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Old 02-04-2020, 12:21 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks. Those are 3 different dogs. 2 females and a male.
This male here is why I feel the color keeps popping up from time to time in my own dogs. I only produce 2 colors, Black and red with black masks.

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Your pup is a cuttie reguardless of what it's color is called. 😉

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Thanks. Those are 3 different dogs. 2 females and a male.
Well, that explains why they look different then lol. I like the face on the second one.



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I also have one of those blue dogs that is more blue-ish. It is pretty common to have the blue with the light tan on the coats in my experience. Mine is similarly mostly amstaff with a bit of AB thrown in. If DNA testing can be trusted, he is 65% amstaff, 30% apbt, and 5% Neapolitan Mastiff. Reality is he is a poorly bred shelter mutt. But I love him. He's been a fun challenge. Has a bit more game dog in him than I would have liked but we've made it work.
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