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Old 09-27-2012, 11:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
 

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@ Ashee ... Is there any way I can see some pics of them ?

And yea I know I'm coming to see realization in that :/ but thanks for the help


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There is no way to know if you don't have any papers or pedigree for him. Anyone who looks at that dog and claims to know exactly what breed and bloodline it is.... is an arrogant fool. You're getting the right advice on here by the people telling you that you wont be able to figure it out, it just can't be done. It's hard not to wonder, but I wouldn't get too caught up in it anyway, your dog is your dog no matter where it originated from.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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True. You can not tell a bloodline just by a pic lol. My friends had a dog that was classic RE lines and she was very small and looked nothing like that lol.



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Old 09-28-2012, 02:55 AM   #19 (permalink)
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so ur tryin to tell the OP that their mutt bulldog mix looks like the famous Throwin Knuckles? the foundation for RE? BullyPedia|The American Bully Online Pedigree Database
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:58 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Curiosity killed the cat.
That would be something to remember. Never buy from anyone that attemps to sell you a "pit."
That is a novice (heck, lower than a novice, for that matter) word used by those who know nothing.
Advice: If you ever want a REAL American (pit) Bull Terrier first look for older books on the breed.
Bullies are not, nor ever will be, Pit Dogs. They would be in total exhaustion in under ten minutes.
The ApBT is a breed that goes for hours...
Next, when you get a basis of what an ApBT is NOT, start looking for breeders who have bred them for years, and have all the Pedigree's, and Titles of their dogs.
Get references. View pics of other customers' dogs.
(By "is NOT" I mean don't listen to the "public" opinion, or from those with fakes...oversized yard sh**ers, unregestered dogs. Buy a champion blood dog and you'll know what I mean. BIG difference!)

But in general, avoid anyone who calls their dogs "pits," "pitbulls," "pitties," ect.
The ApBT is only known as "bulldog," "Pit Dog," or "Game Dog."

And as for the ApBT "types," they only differ in their bloodlines.
There is a separate strain of ApBT known as the Old Family Red Nose.
They are separate only for their color and the blood that only comes in that color.
Within this strain are the various bloodlines of the OFRN.
Okay, i see you say these things often in your posts about how if the person wants a "real American Pit Bull Terrier" and how they were cheated.

Now, i do agree with your logic and your generalized views on what is, isn't, however do you honestly think everyone needs an APBT or for that matter can handle a dog with any amount of "actual" drive?

I know the answer as i'm sure you know the answer, which is the main problem i have with you going the route you do in explanations to people on the subject of their dogs.

The only real answer is to go back to feeding an animal you have use for, breeding true to the animal vs. your pockets; which leads to the only real question of what use do you have for the animal? When discussing such matters it makes more sense to understand what the person is looking for out of an animal vs. automatically assuming they not only want a "real American Pit Bull Terrier" as not many truly understand what they are anymore, as well as understanding what is required to properly care of which included is purpose.

If every Joe Schmo had an APBT, this would not cure anything and only amount to far higher percentages of "attacks" reported as the lack of control and understanding required to handle a Bulldog. (or any breed of dog of which is bred down from traditional stock and not show quality/pet quality)

Otherwise, i do agree that people should do their research more in depth rather than just a few internet websites or forums or media out lets or a few people around the neighborhood.

Very few own an APBT in traditional forum, very few own a high end Bulldog put to use down from traditional stock.. Even fewer, comparing to the masses of whom needs or has use for such hounds.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
 

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@ odin's - that's something . You did that for me or came across ?.. I know it may not be true that that dog could be the ancestor of my pup .. That's pretty cool if I say so. That'll be crazy if there was some relation but theres a difference in patterns. My pit has kinda like a brindal pattern where the brown and the other one has straight brown from what I can see. I really appreciate that tho. Oh yea What does "op" and "re" mean ? I'm kinda new to this.. I know I don't have the papers for him but I'm just curious ..


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Old 09-28-2012, 03:38 AM   #22 (permalink)
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@ odin's - that's something . You did that for me or came across ?.. I know it may not be true that that dog could be the ancestor of my pup .. That's pretty cool if I say so. That'll be crazy if there was some relation but theres a difference in patterns. My pit has kinda like a brindal pattern where the brown and the other one has straight brown from what I can see. I really appreciate that tho. Oh yea What does "op" and "re" mean ? I'm kinda new to this.. I know I don't have the papers for him but I'm just curious ..


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lol that dog is named Throwin Knuckles. he is very well known and is one of the foundation dogs for the Razors Edge blood line (RE). that bloodline went on with others to become a newer bully breed known as American Bull, no longer pit bulls. for more information check out our Bullies 101 section here. there is no way to tell if ur dog is related or not, i was responding to the gal who said ur pup looked like an old RE dog. i think ur dog is most likely a mix of multiple bully breeds and therefore a mutt. and dont take mutt in a bad way, a lot of us have mutts, myself included. they make awesome pets oh and OP means original post or poster. so when i used it here i was referring to u but i know how u feel, lots of new lingo to learn lol
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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It doesn't really matter since you have a cute puppy to love. Also, he doesn't look to be 6-7 months old either, when did you get him?

Bruce is a Razor's edge bully and he was 50 lbs at 5 months.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
 

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I got him at 6 weeks supposedly from what that guy said but now idk if it's true or not. From my calculations he was born around April 19th.. How old would you say he is ? Older or younger ? Cause he's not really getting taller hes just getting thicker


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I got him at 6 weeks supposedly from what that guy said but now idk if it's true or not. From my calculations he was born around April 19th.. How old would you say he is ? Older or younger ? Cause he's not really getting taller hes just getting thicker


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From the pics you posted he looked to be around 4 months give or take a couple weeks.

Bruce was born on April 4th haha. But just looking at your dog, he definitely is not an APBT. You might have just gotten the runt of the litter.

Typically Bully's stay fairly medium height. They aren't a tall dog, and that kinda tells me you do have a bully.

Never know unless you get his pedigree to look at the bloodlines. Something tells me he has Razor's edge in him.

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