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Old 12-06-2010, 08:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Bulldozer talking to people about being here only six months lol that's funny... Why? Just because you've been here a year BUT you have only made seven posts...

If these actions are not true and he is being falsely accused maybe you should be standing next to him fighting the judge and jury instead of trying to start an argument on a purely informative post on the web...
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Interesting. Glad you shed a bit of personal knowledge on this Bulldozer.
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Sarge Bulldozer may not post here often but some of us know him from other forums. He is a good guy and knows A LOT about these dogs and has been involved with them for as long as I have been alive. He is coming from a good place and he's right about what he's saying.
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That's great and I have no doubt he's a "good" guy and knows alot but so do many others... One thing he obviously hasn't learned is we are all on the same team here and maybe if he would talk to people like they are people then he might get a better reaction... Personal insight on a story like this is welcome by me BUT no need to attack people when they might not know the whole story... It's kind of ironic how he's attacking people when that's what he's attacking them for...
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:15 PM   #20 (permalink)
 

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Hey look now I didn't come here to ruffle any feathers but what is being done to this man is criminal not what he has done. He is an old vet and his means of documentation may be far outdated with the paper and rock filing system but he is good man and would help a man with a hurt dog without question and LOVES our breed. He certainly wasn't going to respond to a stranger in the manner the paper said! Doesn't that sound more than a little rediculous. "Hello Dr. this is a fighting dog... and we want you to fix him so we can fight him again see... um and is that okay and you won't report us right because you are into that sort of thing right sir.... um Dr." I mean how stupid do you think this man is. Yes he knew that the local PD didn't like him - because they were placing the blame of overcrowded shelters and the pit bull population on his long standing policy as "pit bull friendly". Hell - I think if you walked in the door with a pit bull it was half off - lol. His daughter told me the other day what a shame it was they were targeting him and he never backed down that is why he was taken down - man I wish there was more people in the world like that. Most of the "pit bull lovers" in the world would tuck tail and run! He did have some delinquent kids work for him before got caught stealing medicine and I wouldn't doubt if these kids are the main witness of all these other claims. The doctor was just too trusting you see. He wanted to best for every animal that walked through the front or back door (as mine often did). I just really hope that people see past the sensationalism and open their minds to the powers that be and the influence they have over people. Sadie is right. This easily could be any of you - putting your children in danger with these viscious animals, hording many at a time for what purpose, caging them or securing them in barbaric ways, and feeding them raw meats to increase their bloodlust. You all are the next great front page story! It's a guaranteed hit! And all it has to make sure that it is - is to post those two words in BOLD print - "PIT BULL". LOL - good luck fellows and be safe!
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I don't think he's attacking anyone just giving the facts and being truthful about a real problem many people are very naive when owning these dogs people are quick to judge without having all the facts. When you are a bulldog owner you are a target wether your Floyd, Dr. Friedrich, Farron, or just a pet bull owner enjoying your dogs all of us are subject to being targeted, stereotyped and being wrongfully accused of things we didn't do just because we love and own this breed you are NOT safe no matter what you do with your dogs. So naturally the first thing we as bulldog owners should do when we read something like this is take it with a grain of salt and not be so quick to judge without having all the facts first. This is a real problem and those of us passionate about the breed and keeping these dogs safe are tired of BS and propaganda and innocent lives being destroyed the witch hunts are on we know where the real hate is coming from it's the same organizations that are out to destroy these dogs and those involved at any cost while so called trying to protect the breed at the same time. People need to wake up and stop being so naive and stop believing everything they read that I 100% agree with.
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THis guy is disgusting and should not have a vet liscense anymore and the people working for him seeing this is just as bad, Bulldozer he may have done well with some ppl but by the sounds of this and comming from investigators who are setting up undercover operations on him bringing in dogs and having him NOT report dog fighting , and falsley charging for RABIES shots that WERE NOT givin is absolutely sick , I think if you love this breed how could you support someone who is covering up behaviour that hurt our breed. aside from all the other allegations he is charged with the fact that he condones fighting and helps dog fighters what makes him any better then the people out there fighting them himself ? I hope this vet can never practice again and I feel for the families that have been effected by this moron.
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THis guy is disgusting and should not have a vet liscense anymore and the people working for him seeing this is just as bad, Bulldozer he may have done well with some ppl but by the sounds of this and comming from investigators who are setting up undercover operations on him bringing in dogs and having him NOT report dog fighting , and falsley charging for RABIES shots that WERE NOT givin is absolutely sick , I think if you love this breed how could you support someone who is covering up behaviour that hurt our breed. aside from all the other allegations he is charged with the fact that he condones fighting and helps dog fighters what makes him any better then the people out there fighting them himself ? I hope this vet can never practice again and I feel for the families that have been effected by this moron.
I am sorry you must be from the 'land of no punctuation'. Can you please give this note to an interpreter and have them translate into English? I believe that there are many different kinds of people in this world. One of them seeks for and finds evil in almost everything and everyone out there. These people are actually moronic because they label and dictate things and people they actually have no knowledge of. Now I don't know you - lol - but I am sure you are already forming an opinion of what I might say next. LOL.
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Im sorry if you cant read english maybe you found the wrong site you are probably looking for the gamedog site where they condone dog fighting as you obviously do. I dont look for the bad in people but at what point do you say hmmm something isnt right with this vet? complaints for that long and undercover investigations? they dont do that for some lame random complaint on a vet there is alot more to this , perhaps he has helped you cover up dog fighting and now your a little bitter cause he cant help you no more... Just saying if you want to make rude remarks to me ill throw some right back
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Thanks for the return fire 'angelbaby' - I wouldn't expect anything less from someone spewing ignorance as you have proven to do. Actually - I help to run a rescue in my area here and Dr. Friedericks helped to hold a number of them that otherwise would have been stuck at the pound or put asleep before a home could be found.

Now I do not know if the person was in fact charged the rabies vaccination or not but here is an interesting fact. The Rabies shot actually is tested and proven to last over FIVE years and your government is effectively killing all of your animals slowly when they demand that it be administered once per year like they do in Chicago. Now if that is true - and 'angelbaby' had anything to say about it, the government would never make or practice law again and automatically become "morons".

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Im not even arguing over how long rabies last , obviously you are from the land of "cant read", to charge someone for rabies shots and not give them is sick , for a vet to say a dog is covered and vaccinated and infact they arent is a crime. How are you even still condoning this guy is beyond me . I havent even based my opinions on the blood caked syringes, or alleged live dog in the freezer , or the stray that he didnt treat but charged for treatment. Im basing my opinion on the guy from what was brought forward by the investigators that alone is enough to know this guy isnt all there and shouldnt be doing this line of work anymore. You are throwing your opinions of me way off base and bringing politics into this and all , I know my laws up here about rabies shots and I know the facts about other vaccinations and how they really arent needed every year there are tests you can have done to see how your dogs immune system is and if the boosters are needed or not ,but im sure if thats the direction you want to go on this chat there are other threads already open on this topic and we could take it there
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Well I guess if Bulldozer is a Dog fighter than I am one too since I agree with what he is saying. Based on your formed opinions I guess I fall into this same category. Maybe I shouldn't post here anymore since I own game bred dogs. I guess I should go look for the game dog sites. I didn't know this forum was only restricted to one type of owner and one type of breed. Angel I think you have the right to your opinions but this man has not been found guilty in a court of law therefore it's unfair to even place any judgement upon him before the facts have had a chance to present itself during a trial which he is entitled to.
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I actually feel the same about you , you seem very ignorant for defending all of these acusations , if the guy did good for you great im glad for your dogs sake , however it doesnt make the other storys untrue because you didnt experience this , if I was in your position i would be thankin the lord that my dogs are safe and unharmed from this guy. its not always easy to believe people close to you can do awful things like that, I lived next door to a guy and used to ride my horses on his property and with his girlfriend I found out he was accused of murder and didnt believe it . Said nah he is too nice a guy to do any of that he helped me many times with my horses Iv been in his home and barns ect , only to find he murdered over 60 women and was proven in a court. Sometimes your own experiences can block your view of someone when they are accused of horrible crimes. i think alot of us can look at this from a different view then you can . if he comes out of this not guity Iguess you can have a big "I TOLD YOU SO" thread for me, but i hardly think they go to this extent of an investigation if he isnt guilty and if they dont have proof.
I think we just have to let it go as we obviously dont agree with eachother on this issue and im sure by the sounds of it on many other issues.
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