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Old 02-10-2017, 08:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Pitbulls grew up together but can't stop fighting now PLS HELP!

Hello! I'm new here. We have 2 pitbulls-a blue nose(female pure breed) and a red nose(male,not registered). We got the rednose when he was 6 weeks old and we got the female 5 weeks later when she was 6 weeks as well. The grew up together-same kennel,sleep on the same pillow together,sleep with me together. Everything was ok until the female got her first heat. We separated them because we didn't want to breed yet. One of the days she was still in heat, the male somehow got in the house and they got into a fight. We managed to separate them before any damage was done. Few days after her heat was over we tried to put them together and everything was ok until one day my husband decided to give them some treats and he put one in one corner of the room and the other end of the room, the male is a piggy (lol) he finished his treat first and then went to the female to try eat her's. And this is when she snapped on him and they started attacking each other pretty aggressive. Ever since they can not get along. We can not figure out the reason. Can anyone help me? What can we do to bond them?
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Crate and rotate even though you own a mix and a bully or AmStaff (not pit) you can still expect to see some dog aggression. May be selective, may be all dogs. Crate and rotate is the lifestyle you need to get used to if you decide you want to keep them both. Also work on a focus command, keep all high value items away when they are together, buy a break stick, and never leave them unattended.
Also, breeding a mutt to a bully or AmStaff (not pit) even though papered, is still going to produce mutts. There are MORE then enough of those in shelters and running the streets. Please do a little research, learn as much as humanly possible, before you risk the lives of your dogs to make a few bucks.

mutt= dog of unknown lineage/mix (not derogatory in any way)
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The male is not a mix. He's just not registered.
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I can't figure out if I can upload pictures here from my computer but i have pictures of both dogs.
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First, welcome to the forum.

Either rehome one of the dogs or be ready to crate and rotate the rest of their lives. This DA cannot be trained out and the dogs have to be separated at all times. This is not a situation that is going to get better but before one or both dogs, or worse a person, get badly injured act immediately.

Please don't add to the already bad situation by breeding these dogs. Please read EckoMac's post to you.

To post pictures here you need to host the picture online. Many of us use Photobucket.com which is a free service. Copy the URL of the hosted picture and paste it into your reply o new thread.

Best of luck with things and you are not alone. Many here have to crate and rotate. It is the chance you take when adding another dog.

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We are not trying to breed them. They got in the same room by mistake. Is it not fixable even considering they grew up together and they didn't have that problem before? What if we neuter the boy?
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Hello! I'm new here. We have 2 pitbulls-a blue nose(female pure breed) and a red nose(male,not registered). We got the rednose when he was 6 weeks old and we got the female 5 weeks later when she was 6 weeks as well. The grew up together-same kennel,sleep on the same pillow together,sleep with me together. Everything was ok until the female got her first heat. We separated them because we didn't want to breed yet. One of the days she was still in heat, the male somehow got in the house and they got into a fight. We managed to separate them before any damage was done. Few days after her heat was over we tried to put them together and everything was ok until one day my husband decided to give them some treats and he put one in one corner of the room and the other end of the room, the male is a piggy (lol) he finished his treat first and then went to the female to try eat her's. And this is when she snapped on him and they started attacking each other pretty aggressive. Ever since they can not get along. We can not figure out the reason. Can anyone help me? What can we do to bond them?
Hi Kristina and welcome to the forums! Like Joe and Ecko have both posted, you cannot train out DA. DA often times doesn't show until dogs reach puberty or even later. It would appear as both of your dogs have reached that stage, and that DA has chosen to rear it's ugly head. As both mods have posted before me, the only solution is to crate and rotate. Many do this and have fulfilling relationships with all their dogs, just individually and never together. I would also follow all other suggestions offered by Joe and Ecko (believe me they KNOW their stuff). Break sticks are imperative to have in case the dogs come into contact with each other and know how to use them to keep all parties safe. High value treats MUST be kept separate as these can cause fights between dogs that get along at times even. I would suggest crating and rotating or at least giving it a shot so hopefully you won't have to rehome either dog.

Neutering won't help with DA and neither does the fact that they grew up together. Like I said, DA usually doesn't rear it's head until the dogs start to mature from young puppies so it is completely normal that you haven't had any DA problems prior to now. Neutering fixing aggression issues is nothing more than a myth though I would implore you to neuter your male anyway.

Also PLEASE follow the advice about not breeding. I realize this time may have been accidental (if it occurred) but you said in your initial post yourself that you were not planning on breeding YET. An unpapered dog is always a mutt because you have no way to prove the lineage or that it is purebred. Also red-nose, blue-nose describes nothing more than the color of their nose. It does nothing to describe the actual breed of your dog. Please do your research and don't add to the overpopulation of our beloved breeds and mixes found in shelters.

Good luck and I hope it works out! Would love to see pics if you can get some posted!

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We never really wanted to breed Agatha (that's the name of my female) and Vike (that't the name of my husband's boy). We have a friend who has a papered blue nose male and IF I ever decide to breed Agatha,I would go with the papered male.
Thank you,for all advices,but can someone explain to me what crate and rotate means? Is it always to keep one of the dogs in a kennel while the other one is outside and just switch between them.
Agatha doesn't have any problems with other dogs. We have 2 more dogs outside the house-Anatholian Sheppherd mix(male-Bullet) and I don't know the breed of the other dog (female-Clyde). Agatha gets along with them perfect. She loves Bullet! And if I let her out loose she would play with both of them.
Vike on the other hand HATES both Bullet and Clyde. He doesn't stop barking at them when he sees them and even tries to attack Bullet(a grown up dog) when he comes up the stairs (we have a fenced porch).
Can it be just Vike the problem?
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We never really wanted to breed Agatha (that's the name of my female) and Vike (that't the name of my husband's boy). We have a friend who has a papered blue nose male and IF I ever decide to breed Agatha,I would go with the papered male.
Thank you,for all advices,but can someone explain to me what crate and rotate means? Is it always to keep one of the dogs in a kennel while the other one is outside and just switch between them.
Agatha doesn't have any problems with other dogs. We have 2 more dogs outside the house-Anatholian Sheppherd mix(male-Bullet) and I don't know the breed of the other dog (female-Clyde). Agatha gets along with them perfect. She loves Bullet! And if I let her out loose she would play with both of them.
Vike on the other hand HATES both Bullet and Clyde. He doesn't stop barking at them when he sees them and even tries to attack Bullet(a grown up dog) when he comes up the stairs (we have a fenced porch).
Can it be just Vike the problem?
Yes that's exactly what crate and rotate means. Never let them be out together but it does sound like it's just an issue with your Vike and that he is the one showing the DA. If that's the case, then you would have to crate and rotate with all your dogs. Crate them all when Vike is out (I love your names btw) and then crate Vike when the rest are out. If Bullet and Clyde are strictly outdoors you can crate and rotate Vike and Agatha when they are inside but you will have to take Vike outside separate of Bullet and Clyde. It;s a lot of work but can be successful if you want to keep them all. Otherwise, I would suggest rehoming Vike to a home where he would be the only dog and therefore much more manageable.

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