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Old 02-02-2018, 11:57 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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I'm sorry but I really have to strongly disagree with everything you're saying on this threat about teaching bite inhibition. There is NEVER a valid reason to teach your dog to put his mouth on a human being - aside from professionally trained service dogs but even then I can't see a reason for a dog to be using his mouth on a human. The whole point of bite inhibition in puppies among their litters is to learn when play is too rough. Dogs using their mouths on each other playing is one thing but dogs and people are NOT on equal footing and I can't see any positive reason whatsoever for ever teaching your dog to have a "soft mouth" or put his/her mouth on a human being ever.
Everyone has a right to there own opinion but you don't teach him to put his mouth on you i did just say that, you just do exactly as the op is doing but when he starts being real cautious and trying to get away with it, you just ignore it don't praise it with even eye contact, until he puts pressure and he then understands what pressure is and then you freak out everytime he goes near it with an open mouth thus teaching him ppl don't like it at all, im sure alot of people have offered there hand and got it wrong and ended up with adult dogs mouthing but you get out what you put in, non mastermind trainers with dogs that can severely harm with a bite I would suggest it, because Imagine your dog bites as vicious as possible and you have overlooked something causing him to bite even out of not understanding, not having raised 4 or more big dogs, like most of you on here already have it fully covered from experience, either its causing harm to someone or it continues to bite and you can't implement correct training because it becomes dangerous by 6 months old, you then get professional help, most normal trainers won't help, it either goes to the shelter or is put down and in Australia e collars choke chains slip leads prong collars are all illegal not that I Condone the use of any of them but each to there own

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Old 02-03-2018, 12:23 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I respect your right to your opinion, I just feel that any dog that puts itís mouth on people shouldnít be taught about pressure or to do it it ďnicelyĒ. They need to be taught to not do it at all. And if any bull is aggressive towards people, it should be put down IMHO. These dogs are NOT HA and may nip and bite during play but even thatís inappropriate when it comes to humans. I know you said never to offer your hand - of course thatís true. People need to be taught the appropriate way to approach a strange dog not the other way around. Yes dogs need to be taught manners and respect but they are not to be treated on the same level as people. Professional trainers can train controlled aggression and even rehab some mild fear aggression, but any naturally HA dog should be put down and not attempted to be rehabbed especially when youíre taking about bulls, who when properly bred, love people and should never show HA.

Iíve used chokes on every dog Iíve ever had but I know how to use it and properly apply a correction. Itís a training tool and I mostly use it to teach a heel.

I guess weíll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Old 02-03-2018, 02:36 AM   #33 (permalink)
 
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Yeah I don't agree with putting down dogs when it's a psychological issue and technically a humans fault, if it's neurogical thats different, I believe sure it's ok to use slip lead etc if that's your choice and you use it correctly but unfortunately most people dont and let there emotions get in the way.

And I don't meen offering your hand meeting a dog I meen with your own dog when it's trying to mouth you, people go il teach bite inhibition here ya go start mouthing and offer their hand, that's where the issues are, some people teach bite inhibition into adolescents I think that's wrong some people also continue to check its whole life I also don't agree with that, but if a puppy knows how to not hurt with its sharp puppy teeth, the blunt adult teeth won't bruise

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