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Old 02-20-2019, 05:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Hey guys, first post on here , though someone may have dealt with this issue and could lend some expertise.
I rescued 2 American staffy x red nose pits about a year ago, one black male and one red female. They were 3 months when I got them, they were very neglected and in poor living conditions.
The female was the runt and tiny, shes great, a little naughty and likes to chew things.. but all in all a great dog
My black one on the other hand is quite alot bigger (15 months and about 50kg) hes an awesome dog and so gentle but he's ridiculously stubborn and often refuses to listen, on new year camping he got spooked and slipped his collar.. took me 17.5 hours to get him back because he refused to come to me.
His main issue is other dogs when walking, if he sees another dog anywhere in his line of sight he tends to get really aggressive and uncontrollable.. being such a big boy he's really hard to hold. I've tried slip collars, harnesses, nose halters even as far to resorting to a static collar for worst case situations.. if anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated, he's a beautiful dog and I'd love to take him out more but I'm worried how unpredictable he can be.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome and thanks for rescuing those doggies. What I am realizing with interacting with dogs is that a lot of how they behave is determined by how I am feeling and my emotions when around them. If I am calm, relaxed and want to play with them, they can sense it and will respond accordingly. Conversely, if I am upset and stressed out, they know and usually will avoid me until I chill.

I have been practicing walking with my dogs recently. I know it sounds silly, but I do believe there is a right & wrong way to walk your dogs. It's common for dogs to get excited when they see other dogs on a walk. Hell, mine used to act like total fools when they saw another dog, jumping and carrying on. That would usually result in me getting tense and stressed because I knew what was coming. I would try to say their names and say "nonono" in that scenario but it only made things worse. They can sense the tension was increasing when I did that and they would go into "protective mode", lashing out at those who they believed was the cause of my tension.

I am practicing letting go of all of those negative emotions and feelings when other dogs are close to see how mine will respond. So far, I see a very noticeable change in their behavior because I am teaching myself not to get all tense and stressed in that situation. Perhaps your dogs are behaving similarly because of it?

It's taken me over 40 years to finally wake up and be more self aware. I think a lot of people don't realize what they say, feel or do at times throughout the day because we're mostly wrapped up in so much. It's definitely not easy at all to let go of the stress because we have grown used to reacting in a specific way in specific scenarios.

Or I could be way off and your dogs are just nuts In either event, I hope this might help out a bit. Dogs act more like us than we realize sometimes.
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Hello kurats and welcome to the forum. Just a couple of pointers. One, these dogs are mentally and physically strong. They are stubborn about getting what they want and are bull headed in it's pursuit. It takes a specially personality to control these dogs. One that is MORE stubborn and bull headed. Now that doesn't mean you need to hurt the dog to train it but rather you need to learn to read the dog and anticipate it's actions and reactions, especially towards other dogs.
Also, keep in mind that these dogs are dog aggressive by DNA. Although the aggressiveness can often be controlled it cannot be trained out. They do not need other dogs in their lives, they just need you. Avoid dog parks etc. and work on the "LEAVE IT" command when other dogs are in the area. If another dog is approaching you could make your dog "SIT" and "LOOK AT ME" until the other dogs has passed. This is taught by making the dog look into your eyes at any time and praising/treating them when they do. They want nothing more than to please you and will do it over and over. Your job in training is to make them understand what you want them to do. Once they understand the rest is easy.
Best of luck and we would really enjoy seeing some pictures of your two.

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Thanks for the advice guys! I've owned pitbulls my whole life and never had an issue.. he's great and I've noticed he does tend to differ depending on my attitude, and knows when he's been good as he always looks back for assurance. He'll be great, but soon as he sees another dog it's like a switch is flipped and he changes in an instant and damn near impossible to hold.. working on it every day, it's just hard and over a year in he doesn't seem to making any progress. I have no interests in dog parks, Id just love to get him to a level where I can walk him around the neighborhood without having my arm torn off or apologising to people for his behavior toward their dog.. also want to start doing some off leash training as well, but in time.. really don't want another repeat of new years :/ haha
I've attached a few pictures of them as well

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Great looking dogs kurats! Thanks for taking the time to share the pictures with us. Nice to put a face with the name.

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I haven't been on here for a while. I had a few surgeries. Anyway, I have a 4yr old low rider daughter, and a GSD. Talk about handfuls. I have similar problems with them. I used to walk them downtown alot, then I couldn't and now winter. So when I do walk my girl she is fine and then when she sees another dog she changes just like that. The person who said that your feelings are picked up by them is right. Also using the sit and misdirection helps her. In the end she gets alot better when we see the next dog. Also if the other dog acts up first she is ready to go. So I usually turn us around and walk a few minutes away and then turn around again and use the sit and stay and stay calm. Sometimes it works great. But let's face it, they are strong and tend to take time to warm up to others. When things get bad like at the vet, I even had to lift the front of her off the floor. She then paid more attention to me than the other dog. And yes I used my arms not her leash.
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