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Old 04-15-2020, 05:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Biting and jumping

Hey all, hope everyone is staying safe & sane!

Wanted to get some feedback if you please. Otis is an awesome guy but at times he gets a little bitey and jumpy with myself and around others. As you can imagine, it's pretty much at a time when the energy level is higher.

Now I'll take some blame here. When I first got him, I was more tolerant of his overly-play biting and didn't correct him when he did it. Now I'm learning to end play as soon as he gets too rough. I think that is helping and am starting to see better behavior.

Is this how you would do it too? If a dog gets too rough during play, take a break for a few minutes and start again? Do you have other suggestions?

Thanks again all!
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Old 04-20-2020, 04:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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How old is the pup?
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Old 04-20-2020, 01:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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With any age dog, stop bad behavior in its tracks. Make it clear what is unacceptable and always praise good behavior. teaching manners takes consistency and doesn’t come easy. Keep at it, it will come. These dogs want to please their people so make it clear what you expect out of him
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Old 04-21-2020, 04:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thank you for the reply. He's about 10 months old, so still a lot for him to learn. I am being more consistent with getting him to stop biting. There are times he gets too excited and plays a bit too rough. When that happens and he does the wrong thing, playtime is over immediately for a while. After he calms down, we then engage in more calm playing which seems to be helping.

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Start working on impulse control--the "games" help with teach leave and much more. I really like the "It's your choice" from Susan Garrett or similar "leave it" games.

Additionally, keep a leash on the dog even in the house for those times when you anticipate excited jumping (like someone coming home). Step on the leash leaving only enough slack to sit or stand, no more. Jumping up becomes self-correcting and no fun.
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What you are doing sounds great to me. If he enjoys the game, he is going to find the things that keep it going. Have you considered giving him outlets for those rougher impulses? Like my buddy LOVES a good game of tug with a ball on string or a rolled leather tug. He has learned some control in that we can do personal play and he can be bitey but gentle, or I can pull out the tug and he can dig in. They all have different parts of play they like, so if he really finds the biting fulfilling, there are some options for where he can direct that. That's how I do it. But like I said, I think you strategy is definitely a good one. With some consistency he is going to figure out what to do to keep the game going.
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Hey Bradd! Glad to read that your only having a behavior problem with Otis and nothing related to health. Take care.

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Thanks Joe! I have found Otis's stomach is very sensitive to any change of diet, so I stick closely to the same food daily. And when he gets too intense with his playing and starts focusing on trying to bite my hands, I redirect his interest to the rope or ball. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and if it doesn't, we just take a break for a bit.
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hey all, a quick update. I was out of town for the past week & a half and came back home last night. Otis was super excited to see me & I thought he was gonna wiggle his tail right off his butt!

We have been getting back into the groove a bit since. I am trusting him to be out of his cage while I am at work. It is working great so far, with just a little accident by the back door.

But our playtime continues to struggle. His favorite toy used to be a rope, but they are getting way too messy and he has been eating the strings he gets from them. Definitely no bueno. He has quite a few bones, kongs, and tires lying around. We play with those often which is excellent, but too often he becomes obsessed with trying to bite my hands.

I know this might not be an overnight thing to break him of this biting obsession, but he often isn't taking no for an answer and becomes fixated on it. When he starts, I issue a firm but gentle "No" command waiting a second or two for him to respond properly. 9 times out of 10 he doesn't, so I then need to withdrawal from play altogether. It gets frustrating because it doesn't seem as if he is listening.

Perhaps I am re-engaging in play too soon? I usually wait at least a minute or two, or simply go on to something else for a while and then come back to play. Or perhaps my no command isn't assertive enough?

Does anyone have any suggestions on other interactive toys between us that isn't so messy? We both love playing tug with the rope, but again it is not the ideal toy for us right now. We need something that is going to be TOUGH. He is an amazing biter with massive jaw muscles!

Thanks again all for reading and the help!
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Redline K9 (and many other companies) offer a variety of sizes and materials of tug toys that are pretty durable. My dogs prefer the leather. The thin rolled leather tug is a household favorite. But I also have a massive "medium" leather tug I got on Leerburg that is a house favorite. The smallest and the biggest tug, go figure. Every dog has their preference, but that works for us. I do also have a ball on a string for tug which is nice because then we can get some chase in the game and my ball loving dog is all about that. As far as improving the game and getting him to play by the rules, there are a lot of pros out there with some good advice to be had. I prefer guys like Ivan Balabanov. Basically find any good sport trainer and they probably have some good advice for starting or ending a game.
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Ok all another update.

Thank you for suggesting the tug toy. I bought one from Amazon last week. He definitely needs his tug time so I also bought a heavy duty spring pole which I plan on hanging out back from the big old oak tree. But until then, we're doing it the old fashioned way...just him and me. He absolutely loves it and it's getting me into shape too!

And although the tug toy I bought has already started falling apart (it's not a Redline K9), we have ropes we can use until we get a new one.

Moving forward, we're designating certain toys for tug only, and others for chew only. That seems to be working out better for everyone.

Pics and videos coming. Thanks again all!
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Good news Bradd, glad to hear that you are both getting "buff" working out but I promise you will tire before Otis does, LOL.
Looking forward to those pics and videos.
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