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Mach0 08-11-2010 02:34 PM

Ground beef?
 
I've looked around and gotten mixed reviews . Is there Anything unhealthy ? Currently, my dogs eat chicken quarters, beef heart, occasional steaks, and ground beef. Ground beef being the bulk most of the week- around 4 times a week. It's easier to manage for myself but If there's a health issue, I will cut back. My dogs have been fine on this diet though.

Indigo Bully Connection 08-11-2010 03:48 PM

The only health issue that I can think of is obesety. Ground beef is the number one ingredient in the weight gainer I use.

Mach0 08-11-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indigo Bully Connection (Post 336980)
The only health issue that I can think of is obesety. Ground beef is the number one ingredient in the weight gainer I use.

I'm not worried about that lol . They are VERY active lol and fit. Thank you tho :-)

geisthexe 08-11-2010 06:30 PM

Where is the ruffage in your diet?

Mach0 08-11-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by geisthexe (Post 337016)
Where is the ruffage in your diet?

I'm not sure what you mean but they are on small amounts of kibble as well. In case that answers your question.

geisthexe 08-11-2010 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach0 (Post 337026)
I'm not sure what you mean but they are on small amounts of kibble as well. In case that answers your question.

So you are doing a kibble / raw diet...

Ruffage would be tripe or vegitation you create to help with the digestion process.

But if you are doing kibble ok ....

MY MIKADO 08-11-2010 11:35 PM

How small is the amount of kibble they get? You should have some veggies and grain in that diet.




Mach0 08-12-2010 11:46 AM

Thank you:-)
They occasionally get treats like carrots and green beans-
They get about 30-40 % kibble. I haven't done the math out but I increased the meat when it seems they lean out quickly. I've been on it for a couple of months and they seem fine. I just wanted to make sure there was no real issue with ground beef. But I also give them all meat about two to three times a week. I will add something else when I do so. Thank you for the advice

MY MIKADO 08-12-2010 12:40 PM

As long as it is good dog food they should be getting some of the vitamines and minerals they need.




Bethb2007 08-12-2010 01:29 PM

If a lot of ground beef is fed, I would worry about the lack of bone in the meat. It seems to me that it could throw off the phosphorous /calcium ration, if fed over a long period of time. For instance, this could be unrelated, but I had a amstaff that I fed regular kibble and then added about 1/4 pound of ground beef to his food. I did this for many months. The dog ended up with Panosteitis. This condition, is usually unheard of in pits and amstaff(usually very large boned dogs and herders). I feel it was the ground meat without bone. The dog recovered fully and never passed it on to his off-spring, but I was worried for awhile.

For this reason, I would stick with meat with bones, or supplement with bonemeal with the burger.

Mach0 08-12-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY MIKADO (Post 337210)
As long as it is good dog food they should be getting on the vitamines and minerals they need.

They are on diamond extreme athlete and they seem just fine so far
Here is a pic
Please excuse the crappy cell pic.
http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...4/2124918e.jpg

geisthexe 08-12-2010 01:44 PM

Once again (Sharon I mean no disrespect) But you can NOT get all your vitamins & Mineral from KIBBLE .. THAT is like saying you can get all your Vitamins & Mineral from TOTAL CEREAL ... FDA requires them to put to much in the MELTING POT (the mixing bowl) Yes in the WHOLE MIXTURE there is the nutritional value you need but in a smalll amount NO you are not getting enough.

If you plan on doing a RAW Kibble Diet

Portions
- 40% Kibble
- 40% Meat
- 15% Ruffage (vegitation or tripe)
- 5% Misc (Yogurts, ACV, Supplements)

And if you are dong KIBBLE .. then you do not need GRAINS

FACT you do not need grain in a RAW Diet unless you have a dog that can not hold on to weight on its body.

Loke-a-doke 08-12-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geisthexe (Post 337217)
Once again (Sharon I mean no disrespect) But you can NOT get all your vitamins & Mineral from KIBBLE .. THAT is like saying you can get all your Vitamins & Mineral from TOTAL CEREAL ... FDA requires them to put to much in the MELTING POT (the mixing bowl) Yes in the WHOLE MIXTURE there is the nutritional value you need but in a smalll amount NO you are not getting enough.

If you plan on doing a RAW Kibble Diet

Portions
- 40% Kibble
- 40% Meat
- 15% Ruffage (vegitation or tripe)
- 5% Misc (Yogurts, ACV, Supplements)

And if you are dong KIBBLE .. then you do not need GRAINS

FACT you do not need grain in a RAW Diet unless you have a dog that can not hold on to weight on its body.


Sorry to just pop in but I was wondering what does ACV stand for? Also what kind of supplements do you mean?

Mach0 08-12-2010 02:10 PM

Thank u
I love this site lol
Quote:

Originally Posted by geisthexe (Post 337217)
Once again (Sharon I mean no disrespect) But you can NOT get all your vitamins & Mineral from KIBBLE .. THAT is like saying you can get all your Vitamins & Mineral from TOTAL CEREAL ... FDA requires them to put to much in the MELTING POT (the mixing bowl) Yes in the WHOLE MIXTURE there is the nutritional value you need but in a smalll amount NO you are not getting enough.

If you plan on doing a RAW Kibble Diet

Portions
- 40% Kibble
- 40% Meat
- 15% Ruffage (vegitation or tripe)
- 5% Misc (Yogurts, ACV, Supplements)

And if you are dong KIBBLE .. then you do not need GRAINS

FACT you do not need grain in a RAW Diet unless you have a dog that can not hold on to weight on its body.


Mach0 08-12-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bethb2007 (Post 337215)
If a lot of ground beef is fed, I would worry about the lack of bone in the meat. It seems to me that it could throw off the phosphorous /calcium ration, if fed over a long period of time. For instance, this could be unrelated, but I had a amstaff that I fed regular kibble and then added about 1/4 pound of ground beef to his food. I did this for many months. The dog ended up with Panosteitis. This condition, is usually unheard of in pits and amstaff(usually very large boned dogs and herders). I feel it was the ground meat without bone. The dog recovered fully and never passed it on to his off-spring, but I was worried for awhile.

For this reason, I would stick with meat with bones, or supplement with bonemeal with the burger.

I will try bone meal but he gets chicken quarters with bones intact as well. It comes out to every other day.
But i will pick up bone meal. There's a butcher shop that does this near my house. Any idea how much with the ground beef days ?


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