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Old 09-19-2009, 04:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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How do you train the send out?

I have been using a hanging tree but I am always interested in how other are doing it.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Say what??? lol
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Say what??? lol

Her vocab is too much for us simple folks huh? LOL
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah, no doubt. I want to know what a send out is. Can somebody translate that for me?
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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It is where the dog runs down a field away from you towards nothing then you down them.
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Ah, very cool. Is that even possible with a pit bull dog? They usually ain't to keen on orders when they're busy, you know?
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It is where the dog runs down a field away from you towards nothing then you down them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0963oItoyzg

Does it count if they sit before they down? I can get Chino do some some things from a distance, I think his basic obedience is really on point... i know for schutzund is out of the question!
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Old 09-19-2009, 11:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Ah, very cool. Is that even possible with a pit bull dog? They usually ain't to keen on orders when they're busy, you know?
That is one of the easiest exercises in Sch but I was just curious how others are training it.
Today when I was working with my dogs i wanted to see where we stood on the down at a distance. I threw her toy half way down my field an sent her to it then asked her to down mid way. She did just fine not a problem at all, I didn't think it would be but I wanted to check on that. When I train with her I will never ask her to down while I am teaching her to run down field, you never want them to anticipate downing because then you lose speed. You want them to run very fast and keep the speed up. Really a well trained dog is pretty biddable bulldog or not. They can really do allot it is just many have not chose to do anything spectacular with their gamebred dogs. Many think they are took frantic or too over the top for sports but IMO they just do not know how to work them. They are a challenge for sure and if I wanted to score the highest points and have the easiest to train dog for Sch I would get a well bred Mal or GSD. Genetics are so strong with like the GSD they do not have many of the challenges I have with my bull dogs.

OZ no they have to drop in a down from a run, I guess they can sit first but you would never teach it that way and you would lose points I think.
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Well I sent her out on our Sch field and she starting running the blinds! Silly little dog! So I am working at less of a distance, also her speed is not where I want it so I will be working on building drive on shorter distances. Anyone have suggestions or do you train it different?
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Well, this is basically what I do:
I put their favorite toy about ten feet in front of them, I hold them by the collar, and then say GO OUt or Vorous. I eventually move it farther and farther away, until it is about a whole field away. I do not tell them down or anything. I extend my whole arm in front of me, and do not put it down until dog finds toy. Once the dog has a clear understanding of the command, then I start the down at the end of the field when they reach the toy. Of course, they have already practiced the down at home. For example, they are running loose in the backyard playing and I scream down/platz, they automatically down wherever they are. So, when I put the down with the send out, it is pretty understandable. I always use the toy, until the day of trial. So, when I go to trial, I will say Vorous, they will run out, I have my whole arm extended in front, when the judge tells me to platz the dog, I lower my arm, and at the same time say PLatz. Just on a side note, I only use a half arm to the side for blind searches.
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Oh, another thing. I always finish the obedience with the send out. I may do a couple, but I always try to do them at the end, before i put them up. Also, when they are "going out" I myseff back up, so when/if the dogs look back, I am farther away, and they get used to "seeing" the distance.

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Old 09-23-2009, 03:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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thanks, the first part if your post is what I started doing to get more speed. At first I was just sending her from a sit but now I am teasing her with her toy and building frustration then dragging her back and sending her. It seems to be helping allot so we will just keep working on short distances for now. I also screwed up because I was calling the send out Voraus and she does blind searches with Voran. I had to rethink that and change words because I think that is why she starting running blinds on Sunday. Thanks for your input
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