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Old 12-16-2010, 02:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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We have been talking to a friend of ours in the states that trains dogs in the french ring , heard it was similar to schutzhund but not exactly the same. We have though loki would be good in this he needs mental work as well a physical, I have emailed a club out here and still waiting oon a reply and have found a trainer about an hour away from us { was hoping closer but havent gotten any responses} this guy works with american bulldogs but is taking clients. Wanted to know if anyone on here knows more about the french ring hands on and maybe answer some questions I have about it before I make a commitment to go all that way. Cali would be the one taking him and Im hoping loki would do well in this area but worried about any aggression this may bring out of him {dunno if sounds stupid } but after watching the videos it looks pretty intense and wondering if it can make a dog more aggressive having this kind of training? and maybe some questions to ask the trainer when I meet him , what would be good to know or to check that he knows? I posted this in the schutzhund thread as its similar and wasnt sure where to post this , if its wrong please move. also what should we have done to loki before starting this? he is now over 2 years and has been healthy thus far, is this anything that can put strain on hips? { thinking no since he isnt really pulling like wp} and if anyone knows another trainer in the bc area of canada near vancouver please let me know would be nice to have a couple lined up to check out and talk to.
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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It really doesn't make the dog more aggressive. Because with the bulldog breeds it is more of an obedience type game for them. I have recently started working with some people here that do this sport because they have more knowledge of my breed than the SCH club I used to work with. Sorry i don't know of any one in your area. But i can say love the sport, it has also helped with our sch training our club is helping me with that as well.
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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are they very similar to eachother or are there big differences , our buddy who trains in the french ring sport in the states said they are similar but he wasnt all that sure what the sch did as he doesnt train in that and doesnt have one in his area to check it out. The videos all seemed very intense although the guy im looking at more now does police K9 training as well so maybe the video was a bit of both? I know what I saw was more likely advanced stages in training and didnt come across as game mode lol. I found another lady right now lokoing online in my area but she seems to be all over the place and does everything from puppy training and agility and french ring and she breeds bouviers and shows lol kinda leaning towards the guy who is a bit more focused on one aspect but I will be giving her a call anyways and see what she says.
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They are kind of different. Their is no tracking in french ring or mondio is what we do. To me Sch has basically tracking, then the Obedience routine ( The routings do not change unless you going up in levels.) Then there is protection. In french ring it is all kind of mixed up. I like it cause the dog has to know each action and its separate commands. So in other words you have to teach the dog how to do each thing separate because any thing could be asked of him at any time as opposed to. having a fixed routine. IMO French ring takes more effort because of this.
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thanks for the info, it deff sounds like fun. Im gonna get together with this guy after christmas and maybe just go and watch for a day and get a feel for how the trainer works and interacts with the dogs and see what he says as to getting loki going.
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Is he a trainer or does he do the decoy work. i have been getting in to decoy work my self and I love it.
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:17 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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he is the trainer, I can link his home page and see if you can offer me any insight as to what you think .PACIFIC RING DAWGS - FRENCH RING AND PSA CLUB we have a few numbers but im leaning towards this guy located about an hour away but not like its a 7 day a week thing , was thinkin this is a 1-2 times a week thing and then of course working on what we learned at home? is this about right? how often do people train with the trainer ? I like how he said he is very blunt about letting people know if the owner and or dog is even suited for this sport , im hoping he is.
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The site is amazing. the guy I train with has Am bulldogs as well. We get to gather once a week, I drive about hour and half. but yes I work the obedience every night. I like that they will be honest about the potential of the dog and handler. Be prepared be cause a lot of people in this sport want you to show them that your APBT is right for this sport. Some are not. None the it looks like a strong foundation to build a great working dog with good luck.
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Im prepared if the trainers say we arent suited for the sport I think from what I have read it would suit him well but you never know until you try , im worried about his basics though he listens great with the boyfriend but occassionally he can get side tracked with new people so he is working with him on that like sit stay watch kinda stuff with other people around , people loki isnt familiar with over the holiday here and hopefully fine tune the loose ends before we can start. Will be giving this guy a call after christmas and see what he suggests as far as comming out and giving things a try. thanks for the comments by the way appreciate it and nice to talk to someone who is familiar with this sport as im really not.
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I am still kind of a newbie, as well. But training in front of people is ok i started by doing so in a pet store. The best thing about our breed is that they take only one lil correction to learn, because of the want to please. I think you guys should do fine. Let me know.
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Here's Leri Hanson and her dog Cassie doing French Ring Sport. We started working Earl with Leri a few months back. We're still just doing obedience with Earl.

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Thats a great video , what a great dog and handler team. Is earl the 1st dog you do french ring with or have you been doing this awhile? being the guy in the suit must be an adrenaline rush lol crazy , I love seeing dogs do this and listen so well to everything. thanks for posting this.
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Being the guy in the suit is so awesome thats how I got started in ring sports met a friend of a friend. He looked at me and just said how would you like to learn to decoy. I was like I'll give a shot and I have been wearing the suit every weekend since. If you get the chance to do it just once you should.
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lol our friend in cali does that as well , he said companys also pay him to break in when the dogs are on duty and get mauled lol I guess keeping the dogs on there toes and tweaking the training they put into them. looks like fun , good work out i bet lol that suit looks heavy.
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