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Well today finally broke the being able to keep them together most of the time to pretty much not at all..

I took them out to the baseball park walking them together (each on opposite sides of me) on the trails as normal routine when about 45 minutes in all of a sudden Kilie goes after Myles, no reason, no warning and no desire other than lets go. Just like that, in a split second these dogs can go from zero to 100 at any given time, any given place without any previous history of the sorts.

When it was all said and done what Kilie started both were determined to finish it, break stick in hand and quick thinking resolved this situation with minimal "damage" to either one of them. Both Kilie and Myles have been highly DA of any other dog for the past several months however this was the first incident that wasn't just a scruffle yet a full blown war between them. Fortunately for past experiences/knowledge i was able to act quickly as stated before, secure one in the car with a/c turned on and continue walking one then switching out later on in the day.

The point of this thread is not for self praise or acknowledgement rather a recent reminder for those who A. believe you can fight genetics and B. for anyone new to this breed who wants a second dog, remember what your getting yourself into and remember the day will come. Sooner or later no matter how well trained your dog(s) are, genetics overrule your training.
 
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Yep. And people think I am overly paranoid becasue none of my dogs are every off leash other other than the 2 small mix things I own. My family thinks I am crazy lol. Well not my sister anymore. She saw Mae and Slim get to each other and shes a believer now.
 

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Yep. And people think I am overly paranoid becasue none of my dogs are every off leash other other than the 2 small mix things I own. My family thinks I am crazy lol. Well not my sister anymore. She saw Mae and Slim get to each other and shes a believer now.
Yeah i knew it was going to happen fairly soon, prepared and their safe and happy.

Unfortunately no matter how many stories there are people will always deny and risk everything because they believe the nonsense. :hammer:
 

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Yeah i knew it was going to happen fairly soon, prepared and their safe and happy.

Unfortunately no matter how many stories there are people will always deny and risk everything because they believe the nonsense. :hammer:
Yep, I think most people on here have had "the incident". If they haven't, its coming!
 

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I hate when bulldog love relationship's come to an end LOL. I still haven't had to separate mine just yet. I do have to cut their play time down. Because last time they played Bogart left Ava's face all scratched up and bleeding. And no they didn't fight but Bogart is starting to figure out he's growing up and he want's to be in control all the time. I now just break them up as soon as I see them getting to intense during play time. I know in my heart it's not going to last forever but I am enjoying it while it lasts. Da is a small price to pay for owning such an awesome breed.
 

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PS... It's kind of funny how they can be playing and within second's it turn's serious quickly. These dog's are funny that way.
 

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PS... It's kind of funny how they can be playing and within second's it turn's serious quickly. These dog's are funny that way.
:goodpost:That what messes a lot of people up. They believe they will see the"warning" and usually there is no warning just a fight out of no where.
 
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yeah, , you gotta love it.... I run my dogs rampid to keep the energy down so they dont eat each other and like you say sometimes Im in the middle of a run in the mountains and they get into it.. LOL I usually pick em both up and split them on a tree; or secure one and pop em off; but I dont have a choice and we have to keep moving together or not at all.

:goodpost: KM you got hit the nail on the head... You got two of the same sex or even two HOT dogs of the opposite sex and you can bet one day when you least expect it... BRAWL!!!!!
 

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Good job on knowing how to separate them, so many people do not know how to separate dogs and get bit, then they blame the dog...... My two males are almost 14months old and they are still ok on leash together but I am always on their heads about not playing or even looking at each other. They do not have to like each other but when they are leash they will walk next each other and not look at one another.... Like kids! keep your eyes forward and hands to yourself! lol
 

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My two males are almost 14months old and they are still ok on leash together but I am always on their heads about not playing or even looking at each other. They do not have to like each other but when they are leash they will walk next each other and not look at one another.... Like kids! keep your eyes forward and hands to yourself! lol
Lol the girls are just about like that. They are aloud to look at each other but Crixus is not allowed to Kiss her sister.lol
 

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Good job on knowing how to separate them, so many people do not know how to separate dogs and get bit, then they blame the dog...... My two males are almost 14months old and they are still ok on leash together but I am always on their heads about not playing or even looking at each other. They do not have to like each other but when they are leash they will walk next each other and not look at one another.... Like kids! keep your eyes forward and hands to yourself! lol
No Doubt!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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I think ppl get confused on the concept of DA vs. overall aggression. I think they think it's all the same & can't really blame them if they are new to the breed...It's a confusing concept to understand. But when you have several ppl telling you the truth, you'd think a person might want to listen...

Because of the type of community I live in, I also think no matter what all dogs should be on leash for it's safety - but even in the country too because I remember being chased frequently on bike rides >.< ...Just the other day my hubby and I were taking a walk & noticed a couple walking their two pitties. We went seperate paths & we crossed a house with a pom mix running around out front...All I kept thinking was what if the ppl walking their pitbulls walked past this house & that dog ran up to them. What if we walked our dogs that night instead of earlier - what could have happened to that little dog. All because someone thinks their little dog is above the law, NO. Being on a leash is for it's for it's own safety as well... And we're in a neighborhood where houses are closely built together so a person really can't have their dogs off leash for a second without something possibly happening.

Now so far, neither of my dogs are DA toward each other. But Lily is DA toward outside dogs & so far Lex hasn't shown any signs. That doesn't mean I don't take the threat any seriously...

I was walking both dogs the other night (first & last time) when a malimute/shepard mix almost charged me because the owner (who just moved in) had the gaul to bring it out front off a leash AGAIN. I was enraged because this same guy (new to the neighborhood) had the gaul to make an outlandish comment about Lex when I was walking him on leash while this same dog sat out front offleash. I seriously almost lost it on the dude...
 

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Good posts everyone!

Sadie - It is funny how it works that way, just one of the many quirks to come along with these breeds.

FH - Kilie is female, Myles is male. Consider me lucky! :p
 

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Indoors, our 2 are easy for 1 person to control. Out doors is a different story, If they're walked together it's never 1 person doing it. Basically for the reason Lex Guardian mentioned above. Same in the park, never off leash to run together unless there are 2 people. The female is an instigator, she likes to bite the males hind legs and trip him while he's running, I'm afraid that will eventually spur a fight. There's a very seldom used park 2 blocks from me that's fenced and gated, I can bring the dogs in and close us in.
If they're not overexcited, the male comes instantly when called and the female follows, but if there's a high value distraction, it can be work.

Last night my male was attacked by another pit bull while I was walking him, the second time in the last month ( way too frequent), 2 different pits involved. Once again, my 1 ft traffic lead allowed me to keep them separated, but I was bitten this time by the other dog.( Not, serious, he got me through heavy jeans as I was pushing him away w/ my leg. I didn't even realize it until I got home. )The owner came and got his dog...all flummoxed, never said a word to me. If I'd had 2 dogs w/ me, It could have been a full blown fight.
Just a couple of weeks ago I mentioned that I was pleased not to have much of an off leash dog problem here. I'd hate to hurt an animal, but, I'm thinking of starting to carry a walking stick.
 

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can you post tips on ow to properly break up 2 dogs fighting in case i ever encounter this situation? and also what are some good subs i can use since i don't own a real break stick.
thanks :) my girl is very sweet and loves meeting other dogs ( even small nippy ones) but since she is always meeting new dogs i feel like i should know the quickest and most effective way to break up a fight no matter how sweet i THINK she is.
 

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i'm actually really impressed by ur post OP. i know break sticks oughta be everywhere your dogs frequent- the yard, the house. dunno why i never thought about havin it on ur person when ur out on walks... totally makes sense tho. glad i don't have to deal with DA with mine but always lookin for it. my pup still irritates my girl so playtime is very moderated and the majority of the time they are separated anyhow unless we're all in the house relaxing but again- never trust a pit bull not to fight. even if they aren't the one to start it- they will finish it. words that i learned the first night i discovered this sight and have rung true since. love all the knowledge and wisdom in so many members here. keep spreadin the wealth ya'll!!!!
 

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LET GO! BE CALM!

just the the dogs grapple (causes less damgage than you trying to rip them apart!) gather YOUR BEARINGS (this should be the first seconds of the squabble) then grab the dog that is hardest to handle and tye its lead off or clip it to a secure chain.. Grab the other dog by the scruff and use your break aka parting stick to slip in and just TURN YOUR WRIST YOU ARE NOT PRYING JAWS APPART THE ACTION WILL JUST DAMAGE YOUR DOG.. TURN YOUR WRIST; popping the dogs mouth appart you have to be quick cause to have to get both dogs.. all the while your telling them ATT .. DROP IT! NO! .. ATT DROP IT!.. Boy im tellin ya my dogs will wont stop for nothing Ive come all the way home from work, got woke up in the middle of the night.. as soon as I set foot on seen I usually dont have to say :poop: the dogs know their doing what displeases me...

all through voice and vibe.. you shouldnt have to do much more than scruff and lift your dogs .. if your fast enough it doesnt hurt to pitch a dog to grab the other dog and pitch it in this room or that room or outside or inside depending on your circumstances...

NEVER PUT A BODY PART IN THE MIDDLE OF A DOG FIGHT AND NEVER NEVER STRIKE THE DOGS!!!! EVER!!! EFFIN EVER!!!!!!! I dont me training taps with your foot or knee; I meaning STRIKING! Dont Do it..
 

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LET GO! BE CALM!

just the the dogs grapple (causes less damgage than you trying to rip them apart!) gather YOUR BEARINGS (this should be the first seconds of the squabble) then grab the dog that is hardest to handle and tye its lead off or clip it to a secure chain.. Grab the other dog by the scruff and use your break aka parting stick to slip in and just TURN YOUR WRIST YOU ARE NOT PRYING JAWS APPART THE ACTION WILL JUST DAMAGE YOUR DOG.. TURN YOUR WRIST; popping the dogs mouth appart you have to be quick cause to have to get both dogs.. all the while your telling them ATT .. DROP IT! NO! .. ATT DROP IT!.. Boy im tellin ya my dogs will wont stop for nothing Ive come all the way home from work, got woke up in the middle of the night.. as soon as I set foot on seen I usually dont have to say :poop: the dogs know their doing what displeases me...

all through voice and vibe.. you shouldnt have to do much more than scruff and lift your dogs .. if your fast enough it doesnt hurt to pitch a dog to grab the other dog and pitch it in this room or that room or outside or inside depending on your circumstances...

NEVER PUT A BODY PART IN THE MIDDLE OF A DOG FIGHT AND NEVER NEVER STRIKE THE DOGS!!!! EVER!!! EFFIN EVER!!!!!!! I dont me training taps with your foot or knee; I meaning STRIKING! Dont Do it..
Sound advice.

When your by yourself as i was it is very difficult when you don't have the option of tie out, chain or anything to keep the dogs separate other than your own strength. Training in this case, will be your number one tool once the dogs are separated, how well they listen and obey your commands. I use traffic leads when out with them (i use 1 or 2 ft leads) for the control when im out in a place i know is a mild to high risk of running across any animal, dog, cat, etc. In the particular case of my OP i was using 2 ft leads.

Upon separated i grabbed both by collars and proceeded to walk to the car for safe separation to continue the dogs activities, if one of them started trying to yank away to get to the other i pulled up to where the front feet didn't touch the ground and said "NO, LEAVE IT" and continued walking.. When using commands i always make sure the dogs are making eye contact with me, body language paired with voice is enough for my dogs to understand that what they are doing i disapprove of..again, goes back to training and how well they listen.

Another is going to be how much drive they have to fight the other, scraps are much easier to settle vs. all out fights.
 
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