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I couldn't help myself; after seeing all the diferent views and opinions on bully style dogs and following all of the threads closely, Many people believe the bully is not a pit bull, on the other hand EVERY stocky pit bull is SUDDENLY a BULLY.. Well here in CDA, ID on the front page is an article "Bullish on pitbulls" promoting a pedigreed show for pitbulls then on page two its all about the ABKC and Bully, only ABKC dogs are allowed as is sanctioned, ABKC sanctioned judges will be there, well if thats so whats all the pitbull talk? Article also notes Pam Carter of Gaff kennels in worely, ID for having the best females in the nation(self promotion?); I have a good mind to take my pretty lil' game dog up there show em' what a real PITBULL is.... Then again, maybe I will send my buddy with Diesel, hahaha:roll: heres the link with show information, Home

heres the article:http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_cc8bc4b7-feb1-53b5-a062-0813fc72bf9b.html

See this is what the problem is; If the dog is a bully and not a pitbull then it so be said as such, esspecially when they cause problems. If the bully is a pitbull, hence dual registries, RE and GOTTI both were registered as APBTs, Whopper dogs are registered APBTs, So whats that say for the dog men/women keeping the game dogs alive? What are they? IF bullys are pitbulls, what are game dogs? Just Game Dogs?
True working huskies have pedigrees but ARE NOT REGISTERED. Seems like the ADBA, Bonafide, etc.. are becoming something similar, function dogs with no place other than where they belong.
 

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Bullys are not pitbulls, A pitbull is a APBT a freaking bulldog a working dog,

I clicked the link and viewed that page its so stupid xl bully pit wtf also read that web link about that retard dude and his so called "pitbull"

Stuff like this gets me heated quicker than anything, anyone I come across that mentions the word pitbull then shows me a dog thats similar to the one in that picture I stop talkin to them and walk away

I guess if bullys are considered pitbulls then Apbts are just .................... something else.

Firehazard your post is the reason I don't use the word "pitbull" but I reckon there is no reason for discussing such issues cause nothing will ever change the world is to far gone
 
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Id be more worried if they were calling a Bully an American Pitbull Terrier. Pitbull can mean many breeds, which i dont no why its stoopid
 

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It really annoys me when people breed this HULK dogs and claim they're APBT's. And if you look at the link to that kennel they claim they breed them within standard. In my opinion an APBT should be bred for gaminess. It's a working dog that should be able to run and be extremely agile. Those dogs look so muscle bound that they wouldn't be able to run for any longer than 5 minutes before collapsing from exhaustion. A pitbull should be well muscle and lean, capable of running flat out and turning on a dime. These dogs just look cumbersome. That's my opinion the bully matter in general.
 

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Its a dead horse now. lol Bullys are not apbt. See Pam Carter use to have nice dogs, then something went wrong, ever since I saw a Mastiff on her yard her dogs got bigger things that make you go hmmmmmm It will never end papers equal more money so why not register them as pit bulls, breed yoru female to a male mastiff, but say your pit bull is the dad and you have papers and a monster pit bull.
 

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Its a dead horse now. lol Bullys are not apbt. See Pam Carter use to have nice dogs, then something went wrong, ever since I saw a Mastiff on her yard her dogs got bigger things that make you go hmmmmmm It will never end papers equal more money so why not register them as pit bulls, breed yoru female to a male mastiff, but say your pit bull is the dad and you have papers and a monster pit bull.
Great! Thanks!
Thats how they do it.:flush:

Ha ha

Just kidding
 

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Hahaha, well ya'll at least Im not alone.... Thats funny Mcleoud I use "bulldog or gamedog" most people are lost then I say pitbull they are like oH, yeh... :hammer: the papers are rung, the blood is scattered and the horse is a bloody pulp, this is a major issue, forget that! its a complete subscription, :D :roll: It crawls on me, so I had to see what others thought.

On a similar note, I know a kennel in Oklahoma producing Am Bulldogs and APBTs(90lb+ dogs) LOL; Just google search Mccabe APBT PEDIGREE, ROFALMAO... BANDOGGES all of them {chuckles}
 

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Pit Bull isn't a breed from what I understand. The media throws the Pit Bull name out for anything that has 4 legs and mauled something...

But no, Bully isn't an APBT..
 

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WOW I can't believe no one commented on the article!

COEUR d'ALENE - It probably doesn't hurt to have a good attitude walking into Steve and Sarah Parker's house.
Then again, it might not matter that much to the three pit bulls that greet visitors to their Coeur d'Alene home. There are no threatening growls or bared teeth, only wagging tails and the occasional whimper of a pup looking for a little attention.
"They love people, and other dogs," Steve said.

Rico and Tiva are both 2 1/2 years old, and Tiva is due to give birth to a litter on June 12. Kimbo, five months old, still sniffs at his mother's belly now and then, but is long-since weaned, and more interested in playing than nursing.

"cough cough" backyard breeders...

For the Parkers, the dogs are part of the family, and they are part of a commun
ity of owners of the sometimes controversial breed. On June 26, they will hold The Summer Showdown, an American Bully Kennel Club-sanctioned show at the Kootenai County Fairgrounds.

Steve got his first pitbull several years ago, and realized he had an affinity for the breed.
"I like how they look, muscular, pretty," he said. Soon he bought Rico and Tiva and began breeding them under the name Ultimate Bully Pitbull.

Their color, called blue, is rare among pitbulls, which come in brindle, fawn, black and red.


he said." Everybody that calls wants blue."

The Parkers recognize that pitbulls, raised wrong, have gained a negative reputation after numerous incidents when the dogs harmed humans or other animals. Breeding and proper attention are vital, they said, and they and other responsible breeders of pitbulls look for good core temperament and will not raise animals who show signs of issues.
"People thing, 'Oh my god, a pitbull,'" Sarah said. "They are not horrible monsters. They are great family pets."
Their daughter Emma, only 4, takes command of Tiva on a family walk with the two parents and their offspring, and gleefully greets another member of the family, Luka, Kimbo's brother, when he stops by for a visit.
"They are attached at the hip," said Joe Ornellas, who owns Kimbo and will be a judge for the fun show at the fairgrounds.

Only American Bully Kennel Club registered pitbulls will be accepted for the main show, but a "fun show" between the two main shows will include boxers, bull mastiffs, and bulldogs, all part of the "bully" category of dogs.

When did boxers become "bulldogs"

The first of its kind in Idaho, the regional show with points being earned for further levels of competition will include kennels from California, Oregon, Montana, Utah, Seattle and Boise.
Judges will include ABKC representatives, along with Pam Carter of Gaff Kennels in Worley, owner of one of the top female pitbulls in the country.
Vendors and adoption and other information booths will be part of the show, and portions of the proceeds from admission will go to the Kootenai Humane Society. Raffles will also be held during the day.
Part of the goal is to increase awareness of the breed.
The Parkers' own children spend time with the pups from the time they are born, and the dogs need a significant amount of interaction with humans.
"They always want to be around you," Steve said. "They need good training. They are a big, strong dog. They love doing active things."
Pitbulls are a loyal breed, Ornellas said, that become "attached at the hip" to their owners.
"They are like people," he said. "If they are mistreated they won't be nice."
But, Steve said, they are easy to care for with their short hair.
Care and attention are vital to the raising of pitbulls, the Parkers say.
"They can't be in a kennel all day," Sarah said. "They get lonely."
While the main show will be limited to ABKC registered dogs, owners of pedigreed pitbulls registered through other organizations can get a temporary certificate for $20.
Admission to the show is $10, with $2 going to the Humane Society.

So great.. this has set us all back about oh a good 10 years...
 

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Um yea and the part in the beginning about how blue is a really rare color. WTF ever. Every Mofo on earth has a blue dog now. In all honesty I see may more blue dogs than red ones. What a big ol pile of :poop:
 

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Yeah and... the dogs are 2 1/2, she is pregnant and has a 5 month old pup from a previous litter... WTF?
 

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Yea that's a bunch of bull :poop: That poor girl. I wish I could send a slap through the mail.
 

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WOW, :hammer: I thought it riled me up.. =)) I agree 100%

"Theres a huge cloud of :poop:." "Watchout everybody there's a :poop:storm coming."(Kingpin) LOL
 

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There was positive in the article, maybe they should have written the typical baby killer article and we would all be good with it. I agree the terminology and misrepresentation of a breed is frustrating.

I honestly believe that although the AmBully is not a APBT, I did not see anything that negatively affects the breed, in fact to a reader it's very positive. The typical GPB reader has above average knowledge of the breed, however your typical newspaper reader in Idaho does not, and if they go to the show they maybe astonished at how friendly the dogs are. At the show there will be tons of AmBully verbage and hopefully someone will explain the difference at the show.

Either way I disagree it sets us back, in fact it's relatively positive press for a often maligned breed, but let's not focus on that and get our APBT picket signs and protest the misrepresentation of our beloved breed.

Sometimes we as a community should focus on the big picture, if we don't know what the big picture is, perhaps we should adjust our focus.
 

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Well said BTK. It seems like mostly everyone took the positive out of that article just to bash the Bully! It seems like people have forgotten what the true goal was and that was informing the public. It makes me wonder that if someone truly knows the difference and doesn't provide proper information to those who are mis-informed then who is truly STOOPID? Food for thought.
 

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Well said BTK. It seems like mostly everyone took the positive out of that article just to bash the Bully! It seems like people have forgotten what the true goal was and that was informing the public. It makes me wonder that if someone truly knows the difference and doesn't provide proper information to those who are mis-informed then who is truly STOOPID? Food for thought.
LOl the problem was with the age of the dogs when they were being bred, and stating that there was a rare color blue. I dont think people were bashing bullies. They were bashing a BYB.

Yes BTK well said it is nice to see an educated bully owner who doesnt walk around with his hackles up waiting for a fight if someone says the slightest thing about a bully.
 

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There was positive in the article, maybe they should have written the typical baby killer article and we would all be good with it. I agree the terminology and misrepresentation of a breed is frustrating.

I honestly believe that although the AmBully is not a APBT, I did not see anything that negatively affects the breed, in fact to a reader it's very positive. The typical GPB reader has above average knowledge of the breed, however your typical newspaper reader in Idaho does not, and if they go to the show they maybe astonished at how friendly the dogs are. At the show there will be tons of AmBully verbage and hopefully someone will explain the difference at the show.

Either way I disagree it sets us back, in fact it's relatively positive press for a often maligned breed, but let's not focus on that and get our APBT picket signs and protest the misrepresentation of our beloved breed.

Sometimes we as a community should focus on the big picture, if we don't know what the big picture is, perhaps we should adjust our focus.
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once again btk...thank you...much love and respect
 

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I was bashing the praising of BYB practices. And the fact that they are furthering the belief that blue is rare. So now every jerk can go out and peddle more "rare blue pitts" AND it also makes common people believe that a pit bull is what is pictured.
 

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LOl the problem was with the age of the dogs when they were being bred, and stating that there was a rare color blue. I dont think people were bashing bullies. They were bashing a BYB.

Yes BTK well said it is nice to see an educated bully owner who doesnt walk around with his hackles up waiting for a fight if someone says the slightest thing about a bully.
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