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My DNA test done to find out what she really is. I really think I might need another one. I will include a picture as well.
http://www.filedropper.com/3000056535-dna-report
If your not comfortable with downloading it, this is what they said:

American bulldog completely on one half
Bullmastiff and Mixed breed on the other half.
The mixed breed is as followed with percentage:
Miniature bull terrier 6.05%
Vizsla 4.48%
Manchester Terrier 3.89%
American Staffs. Terrier 3.75%
Catahoula Leopard Dog 3.46%

This is apparently her makeup genetically.

Here is my problem. Since zoe was a puppy she has always had some blood in her stool. I took her to the vet very worried the first time and had several tests done. They gave her albon, did an xray just incase she ate something she wasn't suppost to, and dewormed her. They told me to change to a different food and that it could be IBS or something dealing with a colon problem. She was put on hills prescription diet and she did good on it for a short amount of time. I fed her yogurt and it seemed to help some. She still had blood at the end of her poop thou. She would poop solid and then it would goto diarrhea and end with blood. She was never sick looking and was always very active. Eventually I took her again, and again with no real answers to my questions. So I decided to try and switch brands slowly from Hills prescription diet to Taste of the Wild salmon formula (blue bag) and that seemed like it was pretty good, yet the same things occur, diarrhea and blood every now and then when she pooped.

So last saturday, my friends smoked a pork butt and without asking me, they gave her a pretty big piece and she also has potatoes with sour creme. To say the least I was pissed. She must have pooped 6 times in a few hours and I knew it was going to be bad. She has more blood than usual now and diarrhea but it is getting better by the day. She is now on chicken and rice and I am hoping to get her system back on track. She was at the vet again on the 31th of january 2011 and they took a blood sample and urine, and also gave her a pill for worms again. Also she has never, never been lethargic.. My question to anyone out there is this....

Has anyone ever had this happen to a pitbull mix of theirs?
Should I goto a specialist to try and finally resolve the problem?
Any suggestions about a possible food that could help and if you believe its a food problem?

I know the specialist will be very expensive, but I just don't know what to do anymore. I love her to death and shes like a child to me. Im a first time dog owner and I am a grateful owner, and will do what I can to make sure she is completely happy and healthy.

I live in port orange florida and if you know of someone in the area that could help please let me know about it. Also if you know of any vet credit cards out there, that would help too.

The place I was referred to was AVS (Affiliated Veterinary Specialists) in maitland, florida. I will do more research within the coming days about them.

Thanks for reading and I hope you have a great day,
Brandon and Zoe
 

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first off welcome, your girl is adorable. The DNA test for genetic makeup are crap, you can;t rely on them for anything and they are not even accepted in registries as valid proof. there are many pure blood dogs who come back as being mixes, and vice versa. The DNA tests people use for dogs that work are when you are trying to see who their parents are, not what breed they could be.

My boy had a bad belly for a long time until I finally went to grain free. I, like you, would give chicken and rice and was basically making it worse because of the grains in the rice I was going to switch to raw but since he is doing really well on the grain free kibbles I am reluctant to change it up again. Seems like it could be food related since the last problem was getting weird food. Have you tried grain free, home cooking or raw feeding? Home cooking and raw provide lots of researchbefore you try, just trying to see what you have already done. I am not sure if TOTW blue bag is grain free or not. I know a lot of dogs have issues with Chicken based kibbles, or beef based kibbles, or fish, they need venison to get back on track.

I have also added puree pumpkin (not the pumpkin pie stuff with spices, just straight pumpkin) to my boy's kibbles every morning and night. If he now gets a bad belly I add yogurt with a drop of Apple Cider Vinegar. Have you experimented with his kibbles to see if its food related? The problem is you need to do it extra slow when they have bad bellys. I usually take about 2 weeks to do a switch over and give it another 2 weeks before I monitor what they are. Took me about 2 years to figure out what worked for my boy and got him consistently solid.
 

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welcome to the forum. I agree save your money on the DNA test its a waste and will come back inconclusive or with various answers you cant depend on that. Its for determining the parents are who they claim are , if you dont have a pedigree or reason to check the parents no point in it.

How often do you give her yogurt? sounds like could be diet related if you have ruled out medical reasons. Maybe she is allergic to dairy? I have seen this in humans not sure if the same in dogs bu lactose intolerance can cause that. If you rule out that being the cause I would just go down the list , grains, chicken, ect ect . just try and eliminate things one by one vs all together or you wont know which one it was.

Hopefully someone else can come up with some other options I know how pricey it can get playing the guessing game with vets. Best of luck and keep us posted.
 

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im going to dna myself, i wonder what i am. I wonder what will happen if i send them my dna instead lol.
 

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first off welcome, your girl is adorable. The DNA test for genetic makeup are crap, you can;t rely on them for anything and they are not even accepted in registries as valid proof. there are many pure blood dogs who come back as being mixes, and vice versa. The DNA tests people use for dogs that work are when you are trying to see who their parents are, not what breed they could be.

My boy had a bad belly for a long time until I finally went to grain free. I, like you, would give chicken and rice and was basically making it worse because of the grains in the rice I was going to switch to raw but since he is doing really well on the grain free kibbles I am reluctant to change it up again. Seems like it could be food related since the last problem was getting weird food. Have you tried grain free, home cooking or raw feeding? Home cooking and raw provide lots of researchbefore you try, just trying to see what you have already done. I am not sure if TOTW blue bag is grain free or not. I know a lot of dogs have issues with Chicken based kibbles, or beef based kibbles, or fish, they need venison to get back on track.

I have also added puree pumpkin (not the pumpkin pie stuff with spices, just straight pumpkin) to my boy's kibbles every morning and night. If he now gets a bad belly I add yogurt with a drop of Apple Cider Vinegar. Have you experimented with his kibbles to see if its food related? The problem is you need to do it extra slow when they have bad bellys. I usually take about 2 weeks to do a switch over and give it another 2 weeks before I monitor what they are. Took me about 2 years to figure out what worked for my boy and got him consistently solid.
Yea, the dna test kit is crap. We did it for christmas thinking it would tell us what she is, which really didnt matter, but it failed horribly. Taste of the Wild blue bag is grain free, and that is why I switched to them, thinking that could be the problem. She started young on Science hills prescription diet, to healthy joints (we have an english bulldog too) to TOTW Blue bag grain free(best so far). Each time I did it slowly but not with the chicken and rice. I asked the vet and she said since her diarrhea was bad, it really couldnt make it any worse. I have never heard of puree pumpkin or apple cider vinegar. I think its worth a shot to see if she responds to it. What do you mean by raw food? I have cooked just chicken and rice for her and nothing else.

Do you think a specialist is needed or just time to find a food that agrees with her? Im going to get some puree pumpkin and try that out. Maybe ill just feed her chicken and some pumpkin and see what happens.. Thanks for your suggestions..

As far as yougurt, I only gave that to her the after the first couple of visits to the vet. She hasnt had yogurt in quite a while. WHen i slowly switched to TOTW grain free she did the best out of any food to date. I might just try a little pumpkin in some chicken. Maybe it just might be a grain thing. But even with grain free, she still had blood in her from time to time.

Do they offer any kind of test for that? I just hope to find some answers eventually.

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I looked up Raw and was thinking it was abbr. for soming else, i didnt know it was healthy to feed the raw chicken. Is it really the best way?
 

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here is a thread to get you started reading about a RAW diet. Its basically what it sounds like, you only feed things that are raw and what you know.

Raw Foods - Pitbulls : Go Pitbull Dog Forums
This details it specifically:
http://www.gopitbull.com/raw-foods/28472-switching-prey-model-raw.html

Other people like Blue_Nose_Bella I am aware of on this forum here cook the food but its closer to feeding RAW than just grain free kibbles. If she doesn't chime in here I am sure she would not mind you PMing her to ask for some links on that stuff.

The yogurt by itself doesn't get the bacteria growing in the belly, its needs the little bit of ACV with the yogurt to get the good stuff growing again. Green beans are also good filler so you don't have to do all Chicken, you could try green beans and pumpkin and chicken. But keep in mind each time you add something you take away figuring out SPECIFICALLY what she could be reacting to. suckssss lol
 

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Hi there and welcome to the forum! Sorry about your dog and the issues your having.....must be frustrating. As Ames said I home cook for my girl because of on going skin infections/allergies that were never getting better. All the vets would do was put her on antibiotics and it would get better but always come back. Granted it's not blood in stool but a health issue none the less. I tried ALL KINDS of kibble but it was home cooking that really helped her and now she is a new dog! After doing so much research and reading books as well as researching on the internet I finally decided that I would go the home cooking route instead of RAW right now and it is working for her. Before you put all the money into a specialist I would at least try home cooking first seeing as how she is having issues with the loose stool and blood. I wouldn't put a dog who isn't 100% healthy on raw but that is my opinion and something I learned along the way in my research. Dogs usually transition easy to home cooking from kibble then you can go from home cooking to raw since they are already eating "real food" but obviously transition slowly. There is so much crap in kibble and we have no control as to what goes into it....we just take it for what it is and hope what it says on the bag is really in the food. I will never go back to kibble. It will always be home cooked or raw for my dogs ;) I like to know and have control as to what goes in her dish everyday. Seeing as how you have nothing to lose at this point I would at least try it and see how it goes. I only lightly cook her food just until the meat changes color.....I don't over cook it because then you really kill all the nutrients in the meat. I also keep some of the broth that it was cooked in. A couple of good books to read are Dr. Pitcairn's complete guide to natural health for cats and dogs. And Dr. Karen Becker's real food for real dogs. Both of these books have recipes and both focus on a raw or home cooked diet. They also tell you the correct supplements you need to add to the diet. Hope this helps :) I can type a whole lot more but I need to get ready for work LOL! I will be back later ;)
 
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