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This study sucks!

Doctors bare grim pit bull data

San Antonio hospital looked at 15 years of cases

By DON FINLEY
STAFF WRITER

May 8, 2011, 9:58PM


SAN ANTONIO - Weary of mending the mauled victims of dog attacks, doctors and nurses looked back at 15 years of serious bite injuries treated at a San Antonio hospital and produced a study likely to offer new ammunition for those looking to ban or regulate pit bulls.

University Hospital found that attacks by pit bulls were more likely to kill people than those by other breeds. In fact, all three deaths seen at the hospital during the period - two children and a 90-year-old man - were from pit bull attacks, records showed. A fourth fatality, a 64-year-old Von Ormy man killed by a pit bull, wasn't seen by the hospital, death records show.

In addition, they found that pit bulls caused more serious injuries - injuries more likely to put their victims in the hospital. Once admitted, those victims had higher medical costs.

"Fortunately, fatal dog attacks are rare, but there seems to be a distinct relationship between the severity and lethality of an attack and the breed responsible," they wrote in an article published in the April issue of the medical journal Annals of Surgery. "These breeds should be regulated in the same way in which other dangerous species, such as leopards, are regulated."

Advocates, dog owners and some experts disagree. They argue passionately against singling out pit bulls, saying the problem is one of irresponsible owners, not an irredeemable breed. People often confuse pit bulls - a generic term for various bull terrier breeds and mixes - with other kinds of dogs, making statistics suspect, they say.

Expert: Study flawed

The study began two years ago when a series of attacks in the area led to renewed calls for regulating pit bulls. Lawmakers in Austin considered bills permitting local bans on specific breeds, which now are forbidden under state law. None passed.

The study's authors argue that pit bulls deserve the special attention they get. Pit bulls, originally bred as fighting dogs, have different attack patterns than other breeds, they say - attacking indiscriminately, without warning and, often, with little interest in stopping.

"There are going to be outspoken opponents of breed legislation, who say: 'My pit bulls lie with my baby and play with my rabbit.' And that's fine," said Dr. John Bini, now chief of surgery at Wilford Hall Medical Center, who led the study while serving a fellowship at University Hospital. "I just think we're seeing something here, and I think it does warrant a discussion as to whether this is a risk that a community wants to take."

Among the grisly statistics the study cites: Pit bulls were responsible for 65 percent of all fatal dog attacks nationally in 2008. In Texas in 2007, seven fatal attacks occurred, six involving pit bulls. Someone in the United States is killed by a pit bull every 14 days. One body part is severed and lost in pit bull attacks every 5.4 days.
Dr. Bonnie Beaver, a professor of veterinary medicine at Texas A&M University and an expert in dog behavior, described the study as flawed. Beaver, a former president of the American Veterinary Medicine Association, who led a national task force on preventing dog bites, has testified against breed-specific bans before state lawmakers.

"These are serious injuries to humans, and I do not mean to belittle the seriousness of the problem seen at the hospital," Beaver said. "However, the dog-related data is seriously flawed, and are used at will to try to prove a specific point of view."

'Changing pits image … '

Sherise Davila heads a nonprofit group here called Heaven Sent Pit Bull Rescue that last year took in 82 unwanted dogs, rehabilitated them and found them new owners - six of them as service animals.

But her group's real purpose lies in its motto: "Changing pits' image one pit at a time." Pit bulls have gotten a bad reputation not because they're inherently bad, she said, but because they're often the first choice of bad owners.

"Some people tend to get this dog because they're missing something inside themselves," she said. "They'll never know the true friendship or love of that animal, because the way they treat that animal they're never quite sure what it's going to do."

The first step is lots of love and praise, she said. Then comes tests to determine the animal's level of aggression and personality. A schedule of training is designed that includes plenty of contact with other dogs. A few are selected for additional training as military dogs or search-and-rescue or companion animals.

That includes Pluto, Davila's own dog. Davila suffers from a seizure disorder, and not only is the dog trained to sense when she's about to have a seizure and signal her, but he can fetch her medication bottle.

"When Pluto got here, he was not the most well-behaved dog at all," she said. "Temperaments can be changed. You have to be able to put the time and work in to change it."

Bini isn't so sure. "That will be the argument that a lot of people have, that it's not the dog. It's the owner. But I think you really have to throw the emotion out. Yeah, it's emotional. But throw it away and let's look at our data."
 

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Crap like this makes me so mad!!!!!! Here they are spreading this BS across the country, BSL springing up everywhere, yet in the grand scheme of things dog bites/deaths (no matter the breed) are how low of a % compared to say.....oh I don't know.....tobacco deaths?! We know tobacco use can/does cause how many deaths a year yet it's still legal???!!! Oh that's right, big brother makes a killing by taxing the heck out of it!
 

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Well ok. Doctors see the grim end og dog bites, BUT do they also see and report the dog bite victims that don't come into the er?.....grrr...ok I will just leave it at that...the study is flawed!
 

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Crap like this makes me so mad!!!!!! Here they are spreading this BS across the country, BSL springing up everywhere, yet in the grand scheme of things dog bites/deaths (no matter the breed) are how low of a % compared to say.....oh I don't know.....tobacco deaths?! We know tobacco use can/does cause how many deaths a year yet it's still legal???!!! Oh that's right, big brother makes a killing by taxing the heck out of it!
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I would agree that the study is seriously flawed! I just got back for an ADBA show and every single dog I encountered was friendly. I even took a female out of her crate and walked her for her owner. She'd never even met me before and it was no big deal to her.
 

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FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR... Be AFRAID.. you NEED LAWS to protect you.. FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR :hammer:

Of course the APBT is more damaging to a person than most dogs.. They're the dog originally bred to take down bulls and eventually other [] bred dogs.. but thats not what makes them dangerous ..

Human tissue heals very fast from cuts and slices, which is what most breeds do for Dobies, GSD, Schnauzers,etc.. cut when they bite.. Malis', rotties, do both.. but they dont just HOLD AND SHAKE.. People dont heal fast from grinded meat and flesh wounds..

Scissors .. vs .. Pliers(that dont let go and shake from the hip and shoulders)..

Colby said it best.. "no ones a man bitting fighting dog.. " need to be culled out and bred right.. There wasnt alot of pit bull fear until the 70's .. rise of the ASPCA :)

There has been some more police dog attacks and even one officer severely mammed but you wont see that on your news, :hammer: .. they revamp the dangerous statistics of pit bulls .. hahahahaha! There shouldnt be HA aggressive APBTs out in the public.. PERIOD! If one is HA it needs to be in professional hands or trained to be so at the right time by a professional.. Just sayin. .
 

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FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR... Be AFRAID.. you NEED LAWS to protect you.. FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR :hammer:

Of course the APBT is more damaging to a person than most dogs.. They're the dog originally bred to take down bulls and eventually other [] bred dogs.. but thats not what makes them dangerous ..

Human tissue heals very fast from cuts and slices, which is what most breeds do for Dobies, GSD, Schnauzers,etc.. cut when they bite.. Malis', rotties, do both.. but they dont just HOLD AND SHAKE.. People dont heal fast from grinded meat and flesh wounds..

Scissors .. vs .. Pliers(that dont let go and shake from the hip and shoulders)..

Colby said it best.. "no ones a man bitting fighting dog.. " need to be culled out and bred right.. There wasnt alot of pit bull fear until the 70's .. rise of the ASPCA :)

There has been some more police dog attacks and even one officer severely mammed but you wont see that on your news, :hammer: .. they revamp the dangerous statistics of pit bulls .. hahahahaha! There shouldnt be HA aggressive APBTs out in the public.. PERIOD! If one is HA it needs to be in professional hands or trained to be so at the right time by a professional.. Just sayin. .
:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost::goodpost::goodpost::goodpost: x 897982134848519815 lol :roll:
 
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