I fully believe an abpt should not be "breakable".... so in reality... if the dog is going to hurt itself on a springpole, it has no real need to be here.You really should have his back feet on the ground no dog should be hanging in the air like that ever.
I thought you might bring that up... lmao.So be it your dogs, I guess you would not have owned honeybunch either right because as you say she was "breakable" right? Can you imagine the dogs she could have produced if her owner had just used common sense? I guess some people lack that
also, I forgot to bring up that she was used for fighting. that would also cause some stress too.I thought you might bring that up... lmao.
how old was honeybunch when she hurt her back?
how many litters did she pump out before hurting her back?
that causes stress.
next time I post a clip ill put it really high just for you infact I think ill post some pics i have from the years and years I have been doing springpoles.
this is a great debate, good work discusing this topic.I can see everyone's point on this and i'll add only that the one dog that got hurt is only one dog of how many thousands that do this, I understand we live in a society that tries to prevent any harm to anyone but sometimes their are other factors at play as was stated. With that said I wouldn't have my dogs feet not touching the ground because I believe the same type of training can be done without him dangling plus I do think we'll be wrestling any bulls or bears to the ground in my backyard and unless you live on a farm why would u need this training?
I never said anything about anyone not working there dogs.I live in the #1 agricultural center of the world! Although I don't have a farm (never want one either) I've had pits for over 10 years and believe me I work them. My male is a high energy dog we bike ride for about 6 miles a day either sprinting or him pulling me on a bike. He's got a pack with 10lbs to carry when we walk for another 3 miles; plus all the play time. He sleeps like a baby and snores like a pig.
ya thanksLOL my dogs run miles in the mtns to kill coyotes and hunt bear I have always ran and used techniques unheard of by bulldog people back in the day, I was of few people that used springpoles,used horse leads, and ran/bike miles with my dogs, and hunted with my dogs; I know this cause everyone was amazed what Hooch and I did. No one even game dog men done what I did as they gave me props on Hooch; then overnight.. Like it went viral everyone was trying to construct limb lines and order treadmills and still couldnt keep up with the pace of my dogs, I didnt realize it then... But hind sight is always 20/20.. (wasnt overnight I just went walkabout for a bit came back into the life of society and found everyone doin the damm thing..) I condition my dogs I dont train them for anything unless Im training a K9 quality dog.
@ Diggits :clap: Keep on Bulldoggin'.......... I see alot of similarities in our simple regiments.. I gave ya props and noticed the feet on the ground, I agree with your POV about the feet on the ground as well..