I appreciate it. The Gator question was more of a general Tab/Jeep question really. Anyway most of my yard in the early 2000's was Shorty/Cowboy with a line called Jenkins from Amite, LA mixed in there. I would eventually just like to know what happened to alot of the dogs but its gonna have to be right place right time thing because there was a split in the yard at one time and alot of papers were lost in Katrina as well. But, anyway, thanks for the info.