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My son got a pitbull when he was in college at NC State. He got tbone when he was six weeks old in August. In December of the same year, I got tbone because my son got caught with him in his apartment. I have two boxers so he basically grew up with them but ended up attacking my one boxer. It was not unprovoked. But that is not the problem now. Tbone is now 4 years old and all of sudden has become scary. Mind you, he's a lovable dog but has severe separation anxiety but now he is showing aggressive behavior even towards my son which is strange. He lives downstairs with my son in my house and he's not allowed upstairs without my son. Lately, he just seems really hyper and aggressive. Not the loving tbone that I know and I'm now afraid of him. I don't know if this makes a difference or not but recently my son has been having a female friend come over. I don't know if Tbone is jealous combined with anxiety. I don't know what to do and neither does my son. We both love the dog very much and it would be very difficult to give him away and would break my son's heart. Last night my daughter went to open the sliding glass door to go say hi to tbone and he went crazy like he was going to attack her. Thankfully she got the door shut in time. I am open to any suggestions or help that can be given before I turn to getting rid of him. I don't want to do that. Please help..maybe someone can understand what it going on. Thank you!!!:(
 

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Ok my first concern is whether Tbone is getting enough physical and metal exercise. The reason I wonder is due to the fact that you had him with your Boxers risking a dog fight when Dog Aggression is a trait of this breed, I am wondering if you guys realize the training and exercise these dogs require as well. If your son raised this dog as his best buddy and now the dog has been pushed off to the side it is going to be hard for him. He certainly should not be developing aggressive tendencies and may need to be looked at by a professional, but that dog should be getting worked out and trained everyday. I also suggest crate training the dog so that he is in a more secure area when you have people over and not risking a dog attack.

With out being there to see the situation no one can say for sure what is going on but my best guess is this dog needs work.
 

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He need's to be put down don't give the dog to anyone else because if that dog god forbid attacks a human that is going to be another strike against the breed. An unstable pit bull is a dangerous dog and should not be allowed to live in society. These dog's were never bred to show human aggression especially not towards their owners. APBT's are not guard dogs some may alert guard but they shouldn't behave like a guard dog period. Do your family and the rest of the responsible APBT owner's a favor and put that dog down before it hurts someone. The behavior your dog is displaying is not normal for this breed.
 

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So let me ask you how old is your daughter? If the door didn't close in time do you believe that T-Bone would have attacked her? Has he ever bitten you or anyone else?
 

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Ok my first concern is whether Tbone is getting enough physical and metal exercise. The reason I wonder is due to the fact that you had him with your Boxers risking a dog fight when Dog Aggression is a trait of this breed, I am wondering if you guys realize the training and exercise these dogs require as well. If your son raised this dog as his best buddy and now the dog has been pushed off to the side it is going to be hard for him. He certainly should not be developing aggressive tendencies and may need to be looked at by a professional, but that dog should be getting worked out and trained everyday. I also suggest crate training the dog so that he is in a more secure area when you have people over and not risking a dog attack.

With out being there to see the situation no one can say for sure what is going on but my best guess is this dog needs work.
He need's to be put down don't give the dog to anyone else because if that dog god forbid attacks a human that is going to be another strike against the breed. An unstable pit bull is a dangerous dog and should not be allowed to live in society. These dog's were never bred to show human aggression especially not towards their owners. APBT's are not guard dogs some may alert guard but they shouldn't behave like a guard dog period. Do your family and the rest of the responsible APBT owner's a favor and put that dog down before it hurts someone. The behavior your dog is displaying is not normal for this breed.
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agree with both, Id get him looked at by a professional and temperment tested and go from there. This isnt normal behaviour in this breed though if there isnt anything medically wrong with him causing this Id seriously look into euthanizing { as sad and hard as that is , could be alot harder after they force you too if he were to attack someone}. This most likely isnt even your guys fault this could be a genetic thing caused by poor breeding and hte breeders not looking at temperments of the dogs they are using. Seeing as your son got him at 6 weeks tells me right there it wasnt from a reputable breeder so who knows what they bred?
 

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Another thing you should think about is if this dog would hurt your family the people who raised it why would you risk giving that dog to someone else? If the dog is unstable it doesn't matter who it goes to it will continue the same unstable behavior elsewhere only it could really hurt the next owner. This is why it's very important that once you have the dog evaluated and it's deemed unstable that the dog not be pawned off to someone else that the dog get's put down to prevent it from hurting another person. You know the dog better than anyone else and if you are scared of it that should tell you something.
 

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I agree with the other posts. I would keep your kids safe, get the dog professionally evaluated and go from there. Sometimes a little love goes a long way. If the dog hasn't made improvements or is getting worse, you may need to euthanize. Under no circumstances should you rehome him. This isn't typical breed characteristics and although this isnt the largest dog out there, it's a lot of dog to have something go wrong. Best of luck.
 

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Thank you all for your posts. When you say have him looked at by a professional. Do you mean a vet and what do I ask the vet to look for? And any idea what the price would be? Yes, it would be extremely heartbreaking to put him down. I love the dog but I hear what you are all saying. My daughter is 23 and because I don't know if he would have attacked her or not says enough for me. It's just so hard. I love the dog so much and he's a sweetheart of a dog but I hear what you are all saying. And to the person that said he needs work, you are absolutely right. I agree he doesn't get enough exercise and I am working two jobs. My son works full time as well. Not a good scenario, I see now. This is just so hard. :(
 

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If you guys don't have time to work him and he has degraded this far PTS may be the best option all around. Like Sadie said you never want to rehome dogs with issues to other people.

By having him evaluated for temperament you would want to find a dog trainer in your area.
 

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You can have a vet look him over to make sure there is no medical cause for his behavior. And then you would need to contact a behavior specialist to come in and evaluate the dog to determine if your dog is truly mentally unstable. Some dog's are just not bred properly and as a result they are not hard wired properly in the head. If you got the dog from a Back Yard Breeder who was breeding dog's without proven linage and temperament you could very well have a mental case on your hands. It happens but if they are bred true to form APBT's are the most stable dogs you can own. It sounds like to me you didn't get the dog from a reputable breeder so in this case I wouldn't be surprised if what you own is a pit bull mix of some sort. I am sure this is difficult but in the end if the dog kills your child or another human being you can't bring a life back this is very serious. Please contact a behavior specialist and have the dog medically examined to make sure that an underlying medical condition is not causing this behavior.
 

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I agree Holly if it's gotten this bad honestly I think the best option is just to put the dog down. Your going to have to put in a lot of work to rehabilitate this animal and that's if the dog can even be rehabilitated only a behavior specialist can tell you that. But even with the lack of attention the dog shouldn't be trying to hurt the people who raised it that is what makes me believe that there is something else going on.
 

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While there is plenty of truth from above, i don't think theres enough information yet to pass too much judgement.. What is his demeanor during these episodes? Meaning.. Is he confident, is his ears far back and tail tucked, (or one of) does it appear to have any similar triggers or 100% out of the blue? How was he bred or is he of unknown history? Also, is there any other behavior issues going on aside from this aggression?

Poorly bred and the genetics behind this can create a highly unstable dog, if this is the case the only thing to do is PTS.. No dog is a happy dog under such stress. If it isn't genetic base, there could be a number of things going on from not enough exercise resulting in extreme lashing to poor socializing resulting in fear with many other possibilities in between..

Either way, consulting with a behavior specialist (one with experience in these dogs) is your best bet.. Also, going to a vet wouldn't be a bad idea either to make sure blood work/scans come back clear.

If it can be corrected the sooner you nip it the better off both he and you guys will.
 

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To KMdogs...yes, his ears are back and he is angry. Well, right now, there are alot of people living in my house which there wasn't before. He is downstairs with my son but when my son comes upstairs, he leaves him down. He was bringing him up until he, out of the blue, started this behavior. He has severe separation anxiety whenever my son leaves the house. Come to think of it, he started acting this way when my son went to Florida for seven days. He started around the fifth day being angry. I bought him the thunder coat and that seemed to help. He is supposedly a blue pit but my son does not know that for sure. What does PTS mean? And how do I find a behavior specialist in my area. I live in Hamilton, New Jersey. I will do whatever it takes to try and help him because he is a sweet and loving dog but if it's genetics, then I guess I don't have a choice and it breaks my heart. Thank you all again...this is very difficult for me because I'm just a big ole dog lover and happen to love the hell out of this one but no, I don't want to see anyone hurt or killed. Absolutely not! He just seems really pissed at my son for some reason. And I'm sure he got him from a backyard breeder.
 

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blue pit is only a color its isnt a line and doesnt say muchabout the pedigree. PTS =put to sleep. Hope it all works out deff get him checked out. Glad you seem to have a level head on you that can see this from different angles, its hard to hear someone say to put your dog down especially when you love them so much. best of luck with your decision on this one.
 

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Let one of my dog's whom I raised since birth growl at me and see what happens LOL. I don't need to know much of anything to know that it's not acceptable. Put it like this these dog's can be raised outdoors with minimal contact and if bred right they are not going to try and hurt their owners the people who feed them day in and day out. True APBT's are very stable mentally and should never show fear or coward before there owners those dog's are not what I consider to be good representations of the breed. These dog's don't have rank drive like German Shepherds so they shouldn't be trying to pull crap like that. A bulldog should be confident and sure of himself all that fear, and snapping at their owners that stuff will get a dog culled quickly over here. Anyway I hope you can find the answers to your problems I just have very little tolerance for dogs like that there are good bulldogs out there to be worried about one who might take your head off. I am glad your going to connect with a behavior specialist that is your best bet at the present time. They are the only ones who can truly see your situation for what it is. I just won't feed a dog who acts like that from my experience those dog's are bad apples. Let us know how it goes and best of luck to you. Thanks for being proactive about your situation ....
 

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To KMdogs...yes, his ears are back and he is angry. Well, right now, there are alot of people living in my house which there wasn't before. He is downstairs with my son but when my son comes upstairs, he leaves him down. He was bringing him up until he, out of the blue, started this behavior. He has severe separation anxiety whenever my son leaves the house. Come to think of it, he started acting this way when my son went to Florida for seven days. He started around the fifth day being angry. I bought him the thunder coat and that seemed to help. He is supposedly a blue pit but my son does not know that for sure. What does PTS mean? And how do I find a behavior specialist in my area. I live in Hamilton, New Jersey. I will do whatever it takes to try and help him because he is a sweet and loving dog but if it's genetics, then I guess I don't have a choice and it breaks my heart. Thank you all again...this is very difficult for me because I'm just a big ole dog lover and happen to love the hell out of this one but no, I don't want to see anyone hurt or killed. Absolutely not! He just seems really pissed at my son for some reason. And I'm sure he got him from a backyard breeder.
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Good Link freddie thanks for posting that up for the newbie...
I hope it all turns out for the best. Whatever decision is made.
 

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thank you for that link

I will be contacting Scott today.....and hoping for the best! But whatever the turn out ends up to be, I will know that I tried everything possible to help tbone. Again, thank you everyone!
 

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If I may..

Firstly you dont have a dog. You have a "pitbull" breed dog. DIFFERENCE
-- This animal that you have requires 10 times the attention, and affection, than most other breeds. This is not an animal that can live in the "downstairs" of a house, separated from the "upstairs" people (who are its owners none the less). The attention and excercise required to maintain this animal is conflicting with living situations.. How often does he get walked? Fed? Bathed? Groomed? Belly rubbed? Does he watch the two Boxers get it all? Im just sayin.. this breed is more than a pet.!

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--- When you mean he gets aggressive when your daughter wants to go "say hi", and scares her so bad she has to ("thank goodness") get the door closed in time, that you would actually keep an animal that could maul you within an area that gives him a chance to do so??? Where is your son? Work? and school? and chillin with a chick? But not his "Buddy" who is sooo heartbroken over having to make a decision..

Would you risk losing a boxer over this dog?
Would you risk personal inury to you or your family, or friends who come over?
Would you live with yourself if Tbone god forbid got loose one day and ...... well you know what happens when unstable pitbulls get loose..

Have your son read this.. and many other post here in our Forum, if you want even the slightest chance of salvaging Tbone and your family...

Now my personal opinion.. Sadie and others said it best..
If my baby.. my dog I had since 3 weeks and had to bottle feed for a week, was aggressive toward my daughter. DEAD DOG! Millions of dogs in shelters waiting to not bite my daughter, and many well bred Pitbulls within that million if thats the kind I wanted.. ( T-Bone II so to speak) But consider the fact you own a monster, not a dog!

Tbone has many more days left of living naturally and all of those are possible chances for disaster.. You need to really consider how you want to live.....

thank you
 
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