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It's not cruel. It may suck for the dog but it's the responsible thing to do. I know when I get off the chain, I get in trouble haha.
 

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:rofl::rofl::rofl: We try to make sure your collar is tight before leaving you unattended lol..
 

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so locking them in the house is cruel, leaving them unsupervised in the yard is irresponsible and chaining them up cruel, not many things left to do is there if you have to go to work
 

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Doggy day care Thats what they push now lol..
 

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I think it can be and cant be. So i think it is and isnt.

To me it depends on the size of a chain. There comes a point where chains get too big, and yes i feel it is cruelty because that size chain is not needed, your dog is not a Semi.

Know when the appropiate size chain is used, then i feel it is NOT cruelty, it is for safety.
 

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I don't think it's cruel at all...


Abunch of the cities in my state are banning the chaining of your dog...Kinda sucks but at the same time is a good thing. We have had alot of problems with people chaining their dogs and just leave them to die...
 

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I think it is the responsible thing to do if you have to leave the dog unattended outside. But also that when doing so you should be smart about it, dont chain the dog in an area that doesnt have any shade, or is around objects he could harm himself on. I think it is an absolute when done correctly.
 

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Doggy day care Thats what they push now lol..
They just leave them in a pen all day anyway....do you think they will lwet a pit bull run around playing with all the other dogs at doggy day care recess? i think not!

Great article marty i read that one yesterday when you threw that bone for someone else. Awesome read. Alerted me to the facts and myths of tethering dogs. I do think one of the most humane ways of keeping a dog under wraps un attended is on the tether with a staked down water and food bowl and proper dwelling and some shade. Thanks for lettin us know marty!
 

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Nope, it's not cruel, provided that the chain is long enough to give the dog some type of roaming capabilities.
 

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I also think the chain thing is a bit bias, leaning toward bully breed owners.

have any of you ever been to a town that uses dog sleds, or even just a weekend dog sledding warrior.

They have any where from 10-40 dogs chained up. These dogs were bred to pull, but no one gets upset about them being chained up for days, weeks on end.
 

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If your a kennel owner or someone with multiple game bred dogs or dogs who are intact what they hell are you supposed to do let them run around in your yard and kill eachother? I think chaining is necassary for certain situations when it's done by reponsible owner's like Marty who owns multiple game bred intact dogs on his yard he does not want them having unplanned litter's or any dead dogs on his property he is doing the right thing for saftey and security reasons. Shit I have puppies who have broken out crates before these dogs can be very very creative you have to protect them. Either heavy duty built kennels or properly chained with a doggy house for shelter if they are outside dogs. You don't just allow multiple dogs to roam free that's a big NO NO. I think you have some idiots who don't know how to properly chain a dog and this is where the problem with chaining comes in. That's why you have people like Marty who is trying to educate people how to properly set up chains for outside dogs. If your doing it the right way I have no issue with it.
 

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I also think the dogs need to get off the chains for walks and play time. Too many people have dogs chained up outside. There's more to being a dog owner than putting a dog on a chain beside a dog house and giving them food and water. But, as everyone has already said, chaining is necessary when the dog is outside.
 

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I also think the dogs need to get off the chains for walks and play time. Too many people have dogs chained up outside. There's more to being a dog owner than putting a dog on a chain beside a dog house and giving them food and water. But, as everyone has already said, chaining is necessary when the dog is outside.
Yeah I agree SJ gotta go out and let them off to run and get some exersize one at a time if your dogs are DA. Some idiots just chain their dogs feed and water them and don't let them off to get exersize that causes built up aggression and shouldn't be done. But chaining is like anything else there is a right and a wrong way to do it. If it's done properly than it's ok in my book
 

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I agree, that a dog should be let off the chain and allow to go for a walk and spend some free time around. Just as a dog should be let out the house and walked as well. I dont think a dog should just be chained up and never played with or given attention. All dogs need playtime and some one on one attention.
 
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Chaining is not cruel. I have seen some owners do it with extremely heavy chains, and that I would not advise. As it is bad for their joints, and pasterns. Plus, in any state you can get introuble with what they refer to as "overchaining".

A good thick chain that is secure, and the right length(10-12 foot long), can be a good way to keep a bulldog. It is way more humane to chain a dog out, rather than crating all day or putting in a small pen. A dog, on a 10 foot chain, has 20 foot to exercise one rather than a tiny kennel or crate.

In the past, I kept several dogs on chains, and it was fine. I did have a parameter fence around it, so that no other animals could get in their chain area. The fence was far enough away, that the dog could not reach it.

I no longer chain dogs, as I have Magnum kennels, with tops. However, I see nothing wrong with it, if done correctly. I also do not like to chain dogs in a yard where children play, as the child can get tangled, and severely injured. Plus, some children will tease the dogs, as they know he can not get to them.

I went to court, on behalf of a guy, who chained his dogs. He had them on the correct length, and weight, and so was cleared of over-chaining.
 

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A 5\16" chain is too large for any dog and causes unnecessary strain. If you have a problem with your dogs breaking their chain, increase the grade of the chain, not the size of it.

A grade 30, 5\16" chain has a working load limit of 1,900lbs and weighs 0.924lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 9.24lbs.

A grade 43, 1\4" chain has a working load limit of 2,600lbs and weighs 0.65lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 6.5lbs.

A grade 70, 1\4" chain has a working load limit of 3,150lbs and weighs 0.67lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 6.7lbs.

A grade 80, 9\32" chain has a working load limit of 3,500lbs and weighs 0.72lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 7.2lbs.

A grade 100, 9\32" chain has a working load limit of 4,300lbs and weighs 0.72lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 7.2lbs.

The higher the grade, the stronger and more durable the material is. If you buy the chain at a hardware store, it will be marked by grade.

A grade 30 chain is silver in color, grade 43 is a little darker and looks to sparkle, grade 70 is originally a gold color, but after wear, it turns the same color as grade 43, both grade 80 and grade 100 chains are black in color. Depending on the manufacturer, some may be stamped with 3, 30 or 300 for grade 30, 4, 43 or 430 for grade 43, 7, 70 or 700 for grade 70, 8, 80 or 800 for grade 80, 10, 100 or 1000 for grade 100; though many manufacturers do not.

Grade 30 (Proof Coil Chain): General purpose, low carbon steel chain.

Used in a wide range of applications. Not to be used in overhead lifting.

Grade 43 (High Test Chain): A high carbon steel chain widely used in industry, construction, agricultural and lumbering operations. Not to be used in overhead lifting.

Grade 70 (Transport Chain): A high quality, high strength carbon steel chain used for load securement. Not to be used in overhead lifting.

Grade 80 (Alloy Chain): Premium quality, high strength alloy chain, heat treated, used in a variety of sling and tie down applications. For overhead lifting applications, only Alloy Chain should be used.

Grade 100 (Alloy Chain): Premium quality, highest strength alloy chain, heat treated, used in a variety of sling and tie down applications. For overhead lifting applications, only Alloy Chain should be used.
 

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A 5\16" chain is too large for any dog and causes unnecessary strain. If you have a problem with your dogs breaking their chain, increase the grade of the chain, not the size of it.

A grade 30, 5\16" chain has a working load limit of 1,900lbs and weighs 0.924lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 9.24lbs.

A grade 43, 1\4" chain has a working load limit of 2,600lbs and weighs 0.65lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 6.5lbs.

A grade 70, 1\4" chain has a working load limit of 3,150lbs and weighs 0.67lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 6.7lbs.

A grade 80, 9\32" chain has a working load limit of 3,500lbs and weighs 0.72lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 7.2lbs.

A grade 100, 9\32" chain has a working load limit of 4,300lbs and weighs 0.72lbs per foot. A ten foot chain would weigh 7.2lbs.

The higher the grade, the stronger and more durable the material is. If you buy the chain at a hardware store, it will be marked by grade.

A grade 30 chain is silver in color, grade 43 is a little darker and looks to sparkle, grade 70 is originally a gold color, but after wear, it turns the same color as grade 43, both grade 80 and grade 100 chains are black in color. Depending on the manufacturer, some may be stamped with 3, 30 or 300 for grade 30, 4, 43 or 430 for grade 43, 7, 70 or 700 for grade 70, 8, 80 or 800 for grade 80, 10, 100 or 1000 for grade 100; though many manufacturers do not.

Grade 30 (Proof Coil Chain): General purpose, low carbon steel chain.

Used in a wide range of applications. Not to be used in overhead lifting.

Grade 43 (High Test Chain): A high carbon steel chain widely used in industry, construction, agricultural and lumbering operations. Not to be used in overhead lifting.

Grade 70 (Transport Chain): A high quality, high strength carbon steel chain used for load securement. Not to be used in overhead lifting.

Grade 80 (Alloy Chain): Premium quality, high strength alloy chain, heat treated, used in a variety of sling and tie down applications. For overhead lifting applications, only Alloy Chain should be used.

Grade 100 (Alloy Chain): Premium quality, highest strength alloy chain, heat treated, used in a variety of sling and tie down applications. For overhead lifting applications, only Alloy Chain should be used.
Interesting read, great post Marty!!
 
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