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Ok so, I was interested in a female pitbull out of West Monroe. When I asked bloodline I was told Carver. period. She was heavily pregnant and supposedly Bred to a male pitbull. I asked his bloodline. Carver. Her owners were not cooperative.. AT ALL! She is ADBA reg. and so is the stud. I have her papers and his name and ADBA #. She (Hannah) however, didnt come with a pedigree. I wouldn't not have bought her except, when I seen her, she was VERY underweight, other than the obvious belly full of puppies. I need to know if someone would know how to trace back the dogs of her pedigree.

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ROWE'S "BLACK BETTY" 83200M-28

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MOSES' "BIG MAX" 89400M-87
 

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Sadie, I'm kinda hinting in your direction lol. If yoiu have the time of course.
 

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The Daddy's name is Jager 10803AP-74
 

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whats the grand sire and dam (s) ... the parents of your dogs parents.


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I don't know. I don't have the Ped. Just the actual papers. Thats all the info I have. When I transfer her into my ownership, I am going to apply for the atleast the 4, but hopefully 6 gen- pedigree if no one can find anything. She was having her pups this morning when i left for work! So i have to hurry. At four so far..
 

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I don't know of any yards off hand producing nothing but Carver, i have one Bandog where Carver was used in part as a foundation as well as owning another bulldog that was heavily bred Carver but wasn't the only bloodline in 6 generations.. I know a few BYB American Bully yards that claim to be producing Carver hounds but just producing mutts from bulldog blood in 3rd and 4th generation crossed with American Bully blood.

More information would be beneficial or if you know the name of the breeder i can look into it for you as im quite fond of Carver dogs, produce some of the best working stock i've ever seen and handled..
 

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If I were you I'd be careful before taking a pup off of that... If you have that many unanswered questions and they are not being 100 with you then move on... something isnt right... good luck none the less..
btw i tried to find info and couldnt find those hounds either..
 

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If I were you I'd be careful before taking a pup off of that... If you have that many unanswered questions and they are not being 100 with you then move on... something isnt right... good luck none the less..
btw i tried to find info and couldnt find those hounds either..
if i'm reading this correctly, he got the pregnant bitch .. not getting just a pup
 

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If I were you I'd be careful before taking a pup off of that... If you have that many unanswered questions and they are not being 100 with you then move on... something isnt right... good luck none the less..
btw i tried to find info and couldnt find those hounds either..
Yep, if you have to :stick: answers out of them either they got some aces and don't feel your fit to take on what the produce or something smells like :poop: and not willing to cooperate with answering.. Either way go with your gut feeling, with the way these hounds are now in days no need to take someone elses genetic disaster and supporting BYB.. And if this breeder is legit most are willing to educate the eager and uneducated if they feel they are not worthy yet of owning such a gem in the rough or they will close their doors in some cases..
 

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So do you just have papers on the mother now or do you have a litter registration with the signature of the sire? If you only have mothers papers you will not be able to even paper the litter and from the sounds of this person how do you know those papers even belong to that dog???
 

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Thanx so far guys/gals, I am a she btw :)

I bought her because I was absolutely not leaving her there in that condition. Yes, I have the father of the pups listed above and a litter app. with their signature. I can reg. the pups. I had to pay extra for that option though. I don't think they are really a breeder. More of just an avg. joe with a few reg. pits. Apparently, money was tight and they couldn't care for a mother dog and pups. As a matter of fact, I had a friend pick her up for me, so I didn't meet the people. I normally do NOT deal with situations like that, I am hoping to just find a legit bit of blood behind em. The original owner was too drunk to load her in the vehicle the night my friend got her and accordingly, wouldn't give a very detailed answer. They said everyone there was rude and just pretty much ignored them. I'm hoping for more info when I send off for her pedigree in a transfer of ownership.
 

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Your name fooled me.. I thought you were the Associated Press of Arkansas for a minute.. LOL ...

sounds like one of those situations that give the breed a GREAT reputation! Thanks for stepping up even if your still learning about the dogs and the strains..

Best of wishes... Keep us posted we are glad to help...
 

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Sorry about the name thing haha.. I will definately keep you guys posted. I will try to get some pics of the buggers on here too :) Ill hopefully discover more later when I get a more extended ped. I hope, by some weird chance, she is decent blooded. Not asking for great (be too far fetched) but decent. Didn't give but $200 for the dog any how.
 

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Man buying a pregnant dog? Good luck. Not going to bash u because I believe you can talk til you are blue in the face but experience is the best teacher. Atleast you are a member of a knowledgeable forum unlike some others that just seem to be all about breeding. Anyways 1 of my dogs was supposedly Castillo/wilder and pre Bully Camelot but the "breeder" faked some names on the sire ped so now my baby girl is paperless. Maybe I could call Maury to find the pappy haha. Seriously though don't get your hopes up because your drunk unprofessional breeder doesn't sound legit. Again good luck with her and however many pups she is carrying. Plenty of knowledge and plenty of experienced members.
 

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Thanx so far guys/gals, I am a she btw :)

I bought her because I was absolutely not leaving her there in that condition. Yes, I have the father of the pups listed above and a litter app. with their signature. I can reg. the pups. I had to pay extra for that option though. I don't think they are really a breeder. More of just an avg. joe with a few reg. pits. Apparently, money was tight and they couldn't care for a mother dog and pups. As a matter of fact, I had a friend pick her up for me, so I didn't meet the people. I normally do NOT deal with situations like that, I am hoping to just find a legit bit of blood behind em. The original owner was too drunk to load her in the vehicle the night my friend got her and accordingly, wouldn't give a very detailed answer. They said everyone there was rude and just pretty much ignored them. I'm hoping for more info when I send off for her pedigree in a transfer of ownership.
If you have the parent's names and registration numbers and they provided you with some sort of bill of sale you can get paper's on your dog. Send them off pay the small fee to have them send you back the pedigree and then post them up online and we can tell you how the dog is bred. If the dog is having a litter of pups it's beneficial for you to know how those pup's are bred so if you can get paper's on them that's what you should do. Until I see the pedigree I don't know how the dog is bred and the people who bred the dog sound like worthless POS BYB's so whatever they told you just put that out of your mind and wait for the papers from the ADBA. Once you do the transfer of ownership and get those papers you can post them up and I can help you out from there.
 

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Well, I am sending off for a transfer of ownership in the next day or so. I kno I have been slow, but my money is tight! Just curious.. Does anyone know Greasy Corner Kid? I might be getting a pup off of him. I have a buddy who is possibly going to help me out. What da you guys think. I have checked out his site, but Idk much about him as a person.
 

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males





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All pups are spoken for btw
 

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I'm confused. Don't you have Momma and a litter ofpups on the ground? Why are you looking at other pups? That's a full time job right there
Im not keeping all these pups lol. And it's not that bad, they have a good momma. All I have to do is feed her, worm the litter, and check in on em everyday. The vet said they are fat and heathly. They are about to start eating a little solid dog food though. The pic above is right at three weeks. But they are almost four now. It's sad, but hannah has gained more (real) weight (not puppy belly) nursing seven pups than she had while she was prego.

And even if I am looking for another pup, I wont be getting one any time real soon. No more on the spot buys.
 
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