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This is from Randy Fox. UKC dogs and alot of ADBA dogs now are becoming another breed. This is why people want to see the Bully's break away of all ADBA and UKC registration but my concern is for the show bred ADBA dogs. UKC is pretty much in the AMstaff territory but the ADBA has a ton of these non game dogs now. Perfect ADBA conformation DOES NOT MAKE A PITBULL. Sorry, but this article and it's opinions reflect exactly how I feel.

This is strictly history so please do not fight dogs unless you like jail. The Famous Maurice Carver. Dogfighter, dogbreeder, Pimp, borderguard and anything else he decided to be. Plus his 'Wino' dog. Maurice was smart in lots of ways. That statement he made saying you can turn a pitbull into a german shepherd in three generations is very true. Simply breed a pitbull to a german shepherd then take the offspring and breed it to a german shepherd. Then take this offspring and breed back to a german shepherd. For what is worth you have a german shepherd. I think he made this statement to teach you that a pitbull bred to an untested pitbull. Then breed that off spring back to an untested pitbull and then repeat it one more time by breeding that offspring to an untested pitbull. Then for what it is worth you do not have a pitbull. Because they were bred to fight and you bred them exactly the opposite. Therefore you have created a new breed. You have erased those genetics that are so important in establishing the breed. If you breed for weight pulling and ignore the fighting gene you do not have a pitbull. If you breed for conformation and ignore the fighting gene you do not have a pitbull. If you breed them to hoghunt and ignore the fighting gene you do not have a pitbull. That is an opinion that Maurice Carver and myself can agree on.
 

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thats why the only difference between champ
and chump is "u". theoretically speaking of course.

i got real bulldogs to the core. 1st gen working
dogs... ch. por rom to be exact.
i wouldn't do it any other way, even if it's not
specifically listed publicly, it's in there. ;)

disclaimer: everything i say is a lie, and I'm a
sick man on multiple medications.
 

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^^^^:rofl: Im majoring in psychology and the reality is EVERYONE is insane....

To repeat the samething over and over and expecting a different outcome; Well HOW many of us go to work everyday thinking things will change? (chuckles) Exactly~
 

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thats why the only difference between champ
and chump is "u". theoretically speaking of course.

i got real bulldogs to the core. 1st gen working
dogs... ch. por rom to be exact.
i wouldn't do it any other way, even if it's not
specifically listed publicly, it's in there. ;)

disclaimer: everything i say is a lie, and I'm a
sick man on multiple medications.
don't forget,some folks know dogs,the people that breed them dogs, and exactly what the dogs can do,because anyone can put their ear to the ground and hear something.
some of us know where to put that ear,and hear whats important.
like when someones got A dog on the yard, then his chain lays in the dust for A few days/weeks,we know where that dog went,and if he comes home and provides stud,we know what the qualifications are.
you ain't gotta be subliminal.just say it.hehehe
 

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i agree with you and mr carver as well. the truth can be seen in many breeds, not just the apbt. hell, even the GSD has become a watered down version of itself these days. i could really care less about conformation shows and the like when it comes to the apbt. this wasnt a breed specifically meant to look pretty, it was meant for a particular task. breed for beauty alone and you will definitely lose something.
 
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