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This is an excerpt from an article by Ed Faron:
The tan point pattern is caused by a recessive gene on the Agouti series gene locus, the following are the alleles (variations) that are definitely known to occur in the American Pit Bull Terrier. There are also a couple of other genes on this same locus, but they are most likely not present in this breed, so we will ignore them in this article to try and keep things simple.



A dog needs to inherit two copies of the tan-point gene to be a black & tan. If a pup inherits one copy of the gene and one copy of the dominant yellow gene, which causes a red or buckskin coloration, then the dog will be red or buckskin, not black and tan. If the dog inherits one copy of the tan-point gene and one of the dominant black gene, the result will be a solid black dog. because of the recessive nature of the tan-point gene, it can actually remain hidden in the gene pool for many generations without expressing itself. In the case of our breed (where this is not a common color) this is what often happens, but it is important to realize that when the tan-point pattern does pop up it is not some new color mutation that appeared out of nowhere, but rather the manifestation of a gene that has been present in this breed all throughout the known history of the American Pit Bull Terrier. Though it is impossible to say for sure where the coloration originated, our best guess would be that it came from some sort of terrier blood that was introduced many, many years ago, probably during the early formation of the breed in the British Isles.


The tan point gene does not actually create a black & tan animal, the gene itself does not produce any color but rather a pattern of a solid color with light-colored 'points'. These 'points' always appear in specific places but the actual size and distribution of them is somewhat variable. The exact coloration that is produced by the tan-point gene is dependent on the color genes present at other loci, for instance if the pigmentation is black, the result will be a black & tan, but if the dog's pigmentation is chocolate or blue then the pattern would produce a chocolate & tan or a blue & tan, respectively.

EXAMPLES OF TRUE TRI COLOR DOGS (Notice the very distinct tan points appear on the face, legs, chest, and under the tail).
The word tri means three, hence the noticeable pattern of three clear and separate colors. Two of them are always tan and white and the third one can either be black, blue, champagne, chocolate, seal or red.

TRI=



Razor's Nation Neekah




BLUE TRI COLOR (CH ESCOBAR OF AMERICAN IRON KENNELS)

CHAMPAGNE/PURPLE TRI COLOR (PURLE HAZE OF AIK)


BLACK & TAN POINT (also called tri-color)
The color pattern is the same on any dog regardless of breed

The tan point colored dogs have a set pattern that is the same as one would see on a Rottweiler, Doberman or Manchester Terrier(BELOW from LEFT to RIGHT).




SABLE/SMUT

Dilute Sable, also called Smut, has a fawn base coat with a heavy black overlay, which often creates the illusion of a tri, but it is NOT the same as a tan point tri color. The overlay darkness will very from heavy to light.
Sable or Smut dogs:








Oh, and be careful if you Google "Smut Dogs".
LOTS of porn comes up lol

Thanks to Idalis Lewis and American Iron Kennels for this info
 

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great post
 

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Great post Lauren.
 

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Are there tri apbts or just bullies? Because I swear a neighbor of ours has what looks to be a tri apbt. Unless its some breed I'm unfamiliar with.
 

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Are there tri apbts or just bullies? Because I swear a neighbor of ours has what looks to be a tri apbt. Unless its some breed I'm unfamiliar with.
Yes there are Tri APBT and have been for years. Mostly Black and tan. The sorrels line that is produce through Tatonka kennels produces a lot of them. But they do not breed for the color.
TATONKA KENNELS STUD DOGS
 

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Pictures of dogs bred by J.P. Colby in the early to mid 1900s, circa 1910-1945 (sepia pictures taken from Colby's Book of the American Pit Bull Terrier c1997). They were not seen that often and people often assume they were mixed; however, that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

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Just a reminder that this is an informative post about color patterns and not about the type of dogs posted. Note that I posted several other breeds to show color patterns as well. Please keep all comments friendly. Thank you :)
 

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I thought so because the article up top mention apbt I just wasn't sure because most pics were bullies and some articles get the info wrong. I think a purple champagne apbt would be so cool :D I shall look into it!
 

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818 Concepts

I googled 818 concepts and this is the kennel that came up. But it looks like they design for a whole bunch of websites that user their logo. 818 so not sure if this is the actual kennel who bred this dog.
818 Concepts is like a glamor shots for bullies.
 

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but where do I buy one! lol My husband and I were talking and I would own a bully like that. He is really stunning!
He is off of Remy Martin who was bred by Ruckus Kennels and is owned by Fabian Chichester. Remy is RE. His mother is Bully G from Blue Thunder Kennels and that is where he was produced.


He is now owned by Wayne of Crown Royal Pitz.
You can check out his other pics on the Crown Royal site.
 

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My bad Lisa.... That is not Sledgehammer. That is his son Hammer Bammer. They have Hammer Bammer's pic in Sledgehammer's pedigree.
This is Sledgehammer:


More pics of Hammer:


He is owned by Paul @ the Bully Headquarters. I think he looks much better than his father.
Hammer Bammer's Pedigree
 

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Question, how in the world did we get the 'purple tri'?? I've been looking at the breed and studying it for quite awhile and there hasn't been any purple tris until recently. Is this because breeders are now breeding for color? I've noticed a couple of lines that are trying to produce only tri color dogs.
 

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Who knows I don't even consider that a real color at least not in the APBT. It looks like a over diluted blue-tri to me. I hear all these fancy colors thrown around lavender, silver, purple tri ... They all look like a lighter washed out blue to me. All I know is game dogs don't come in those colors so I am not sure how they came about.
 
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