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would you recommend an American pit bull terrier to a first-time dog owner all I'm looking for is just a family pet I'm not planning on taking him out to hunt or anything like that but I understand they can be dog aggressive and can't be trusted with other dogs and animals this dog will be the only dog in the house however I have a turtle will that be an issue if I add an American pit bull terrier into my family the turtle just stays in his tank the only time he is out is when we are cleaning and feeding him?
 

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I wouldn't recommend a serious breed of dog for a first time dog owner. Maybe meet some "pit-type" rescues if that's the look you want that have been cleared for a solid temperament by a good rescue. The dog you want will be not be a working dog. You can still train and play working style games with a pet, but they won't require daily management like a true APBT.

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I wouldn't recommend a serious breed of dog for a first time dog owner. Maybe meet some "pit-type" rescues if that's the look you want that have been cleared for a solid temperament by a good rescue. The dog you want will be not be a working dog. You can still train and play working style games with a pet, but they won't require daily management like a true APBT.

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Nope...would not recommend....i have a Red Nose Pit and believe me...very mischievous....arogant....jealous to other dogs even those she grew up with....they don't know how to play without injuring you....temperament is unpredictable at times....very vocal and aggressive toward other dogs....unpredictable and when she gets excited and yes i know there are some people saying it's a mith but i really do see it in my pit's eyes...it really does look like the eyes are going red like a shiny red when she be aggressive or agitated or very excited....similar to the glowing eyes when taking a pic with a flash lite....

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I wouldn't recommend a serious breed of dog for a first time dog owner. Maybe meet some "pit-type" rescues if that's the look you want that have been cleared for a solid temperament by a good rescue. The dog you want will be not be a working dog. You can still train and play working style games with a pet, but they won't require daily management like a true APBT.

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what about an American bully puppy I'm interested in them too pocket, standards, and Xls.
 

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Nope...would not recommend....i have a Red Nose Pit and believe me...very mischievous....arogant....jealous to other dogs even those she grew up with....they don't know how to play without injuring you....temperament is unpredictable at times....very vocal and aggressive toward other dogs....unpredictable and when she gets excited and yes i know there are some people saying it's a mith but i really do see it in my pit's eyes...it really does look like the eyes are going red like a shiny red when she be aggressive or agitated or very excited....similar to the glowing eyes when taking a pic with a flash lite....

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What about an American bully puppy I'm interested in them too pocket, standards, and Xls.
 

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Nope...would not recommend....i have a Red Nose Pit and believe me...very mischievous....arogant....jealous to other dogs even those she grew up with....they don't know how to play without injuring you....temperament is unpredictable at times....very vocal and aggressive toward other dogs....unpredictable and when she gets excited and yes i know there are some people saying it's a mith but i really do see it in my pit's eyes...it really does look like the eyes are going red like a shiny red when she be aggressive or agitated or very excited....similar to the glowing eyes when taking a pic with a flash lite....

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johnoosthuizen,
First, there is not an APBT bloodline such as Red Nose Pit. It is nothing more than the color of the dog's nose. Red Nose Pit is a BYB terminology for a mixed breed dog they are giving a glorified name to make it sound special.

Secondly, if you have a dog that is displaying an unpredictable behavior and is injuring you when playing the dog is unbalanced and needs behavior training, probably by a professional. The characteristics that you describe of arrogance, jealousy, and aggressive behavior is NOT typical of a well-bred APBT.

Any dog that displays these behavior problems needs to be addressed immediately. This is a problem/disaster waiting to happen and is not normal for any breed of dog. Not putting you or your dog down just trying to help here.

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what about an American bully puppy I'm interested in them too pocket, standards, and Xls.
Those breeds tend to have a lot of the same temperament and drive. Same type of management will be required for any bully breed. I don't think first time owners should start with any kind of working dog. Unless you work with one regularly, and can confidently control it, they are too much for regular dog owners.


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Those breeds tend to have a lot of the same temperament and drive. Same type of management will be required for any bully breed. I don't think first time owners should start with any kind of working dog. Unless you work with one regularly, and can confidently control it, they are too much for regular dog owners.


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American bully is not a working breed it was bred to be a companion dog and also a show dog.
 

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Probably not. They are a lot of dog. Perhaps look into an older rescue mixed breed of similar type that has been in a foster situation so someone is well aware of the dogs attitude.
 

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johnoosthuizen,
First, there is not an APBT bloodline such as Red Nose Pit. It is nothing more than the color of the dog's nose. Red Nose Pit is a BYB terminology for a mixed breed dog they are giving a glorified name to make it sound special.

Secondly, if you have a dog that is displaying an unpredictable behavior and is injuring you when playing the dog is unbalanced and needs behavior training, probably by a professional. The characteristics that you describe of arrogance, jealousy, and aggressive behavior is NOT typical of a well-bred APBT.

Any dog that displays these behavior problems needs to be addressed immediately. This is a problem/disaster waiting to happen and is not normal for any breed of dog. Not putting you or your dog down just trying to help here.

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Red nose simply refers to the redish color the dog has on the nose... Also she's competing for the same attention i give to the 5 othe digs i have.....i try to tread them all the same but with her i need to be extra careful.....she is showing improvement in regards to her playful aggression... Whenever she starts playing too ruff i end it off right there and then and leave her be. ...no biting anymore but now she focuses in on my plakkies on my feet when i walk....working on that now....

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Secondly, if you have a dog that is displaying an unpredictable behavior and is injuring you when playing the dog is unbalanced and needs behavior training, probably by a professional. The characteristics that you describe of arrogance, jealousy, and aggressive behavior is NOT typical of a well-bred APBT.

Any dog that displays these behavior problems needs to be addressed immediately. This is a problem/disaster waiting to happen and is not normal for any breed of dog. Not putting you or your dog down just trying to help here.
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OP, you should get a retriever. Great family dogs. Rarely show any dog aggression. American Bullies are bred from APBTs and are still genetically predisposed to dog aggression.
 
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OP, you should get a retriever. Great family dogs. Rarely show any dog aggression. American Bullies are bred from APBTs and are still genetically predisposed to dog aggression.
OP, you should get a retriever. Great family dogs. Rarely show any dog aggression. American Bullies are bred from APBTs and are still genetically predisposed to dog aggression.
well I want a bully breed dog and I want a puppy and I think they fit my lifestyle more I'm looking at American bully pockets standards and xl I'm aware they are dog aggressive particularly dogs of the same sex and this dog is going to be the only dog in the house I don't plan on having 2 dogs.
 

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OP, if you're heart is set as this as your first dog, get in touch with a professional trainer as soon as you bring that pup home.
I just got my first Pittie. He is my 19th dog (as an adult), and yes, he is a lot of dog. Easy pup, comparitavly, but I see what kind of adult he's gonna be, it will definitely be more work. Just the strength, smarts and stubborness!
 

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The term "Rednose' does imply that the dog has an orangy-brown nose and coat color. The word is used in its wrong context. Rednose IS a strain of Old Family Rednose (OFRN) lines.
The dog must have a red nose and toe nails to be a true 'rednose' (so I'm told).

The 'pit bull' is a strong willed breed.
I have no problem with a first time APBT owner-because how else will you experience the breed. However, a new owner needs to study it's History and understand that it may not play well with other dogs-ever, even with it's own family members after 2 years of being friends.
All dogs need training it doesn't matter the breed.
I was a first-time APBT puppy owner once (1988), as were many of you, but today we have the technology to do research. We are able to communicate better with true breeders (not just someone on Craigslist selling a pup) look at pedigrees on line and reach out through networking.
 

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OFRN is a line. OFRN have red noses, but so do multiple other lines. Red nose is just a red nose.

OP. Get a Shorty Bull. DA is uncommon and they are attention grabbers everywhere you go. You still get that bulldog look without the DA. Fantastic family dogs.
 

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The term "Rednose' does imply that the dog has an orangy-brown nose and coat color. The word is used in its wrong context. Rednose IS a strain of Old Family Rednose (OFRN) lines.
The dog must have a red nose and toe nails to be a true 'rednose' (so I'm told).

The 'pit bull' is a strong willed breed.
I have no problem with a first time APBT owner-because how else will you experience the breed. However, a new owner needs to study it's History and understand that it may not play well with other dogs-ever, even with it's own family members after 2 years of being friends.
All dogs need training it doesn't matter the breed.
I was a first-time APBT puppy owner once (1988), as were many of you, but today we have the technology to do research. We are able to communicate better with true breeders (not just someone on Craigslist selling a pup) look at pedigrees on line and reach out through networking.
I'm aware of the animal aggression in the breed they are a fighting breed that comes from the old English bulldog and terriers and I'm aware of some of the bloodlines like nigerino, ofrn , Eli ,turtlebuster, and Colby.
 

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well I want a bully breed dog and I want a puppy and I think they fit my lifestyle more I'm looking at American bully pockets standards and xl I'm aware they are dog aggressive particularly dogs of the same sex and this dog is going to be the only dog in the house I don't plan on having 2 dogs.
My wonder is why is your heart set on a bully breed dog as a first dog? I grew up competing with dogs and when I got my first bully in my early 30s it blew up my world. All my experience with dogs did not prepare me for how different that dog would be. What experience do you have being around dogs of solid temperament that recommend them to you? Or is it just a perception based on looks and the internet. If you haven't been around them personally, make some friends at some ADBA shows or some other venue where you can experience a lot of dogs and spend some time around people who know their dogs well. There are a variety of bully type dogs and only time and personal experience lets you figure out what variety truly suits your lifestyle and needs. I love bully types too, but there are a LOT of them that aren't a great fit for me and my household. It isn't just about not having other dogs or pets around (and plenty of these dogs can live with other dogs in the right hands). My shelter bully is absolutely a pet dog but he also has some tricky needs. Fulfilling that dog, training and interacting with him is challenging. If you are going to walk a dog who is dog aggressive, are you equipped to avoid or break up a fight? Opposition reflex is off the charts different with my bullies compared to my other dogs so just teaching him to walk nice on a leash was a whole other challenge. The caliber of trainer I needed to help me was different too. I went through a lot of mediocre trainers who made matters worse before I met good ones who could support me. As a first time owner, are you equipped to find a good trainer? I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is wise to make sure you have the right support network if you are going to try this as a first time owner. It might go swimmingly, or you may find yourself in over your head. If you are very careful about meeting dogs and selecting the right bully breeder who can match you with a good fit, it might go great. But as a first timer, the chances of someone playing salesman and feeding you a load of crap is also a possibility. Buying a dog these days can be tricky. So I am going to reiterate networking with people and meeting a lot of dogs so you can find what fits. I have a new pup and she is perfect for me, but there are a ton of dogs I thought about getting that I opted not to pursue. Good luck in figuring out what works for you.
 
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